iskander wrote: ↑Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:43 pm
iskander wrote: ↑Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:34 pm
It is the thinking man religion.
The Upanishads seem to be full of contradictions at first. They do not contain consistent system of thought. Sri Vyasa systematised the thoughts or philosophy of the Upanishads in his Brahma Sutras. The Sutras reconcile the conflicting
statements of the Upanishads. In reality there are no conflicts for the thinker.
But Chervakas do not like to think, apparentky.
This Sutra gives the view of the Charvakas or Lokayatikas (materialists) who deny the existence of an Atman different from the body. They say that consciousness is a mere material product and that the body is the soul.
They declare that consciousness is seen to exist only when there is a body and that it is nowhere experienced independent of the body. Therefore consciousness is only an attribute or quality of the body. There is no separate self or soul in this body.
Having experienced telepathy twice, including melding with what looked like a cosmic consciousness, I know that our thoughts can exist outside of the body while the body lives. I do not know if they can live when the body is not there to give energy to the sub atomic particles that carry or create the travelling thoughts. Noetic science might know more in the future.
I do not believe in the reincarnation type of existing consciousness outside of the body.
I also could not tell if what I found was the collective consciousness of the living as posited by the professor who created the god helmet, or if it was the consciousness of the dead. Finding it is hard to take.
Gnostic Christian Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel,
and will reign over all. [And after they have reigned they will rest.]"
I can attest to the truth of this quote up to the bolded part.
I am not 100% sure what the bolded part and reigning over all mean but think it has to do with how I think in moral and spiritual matters.
In a sense, it is a curse as that would mean that I will never lose and argument, and that means I will not learn anything new and will lose that great pleasure.
Bummer.
Regards
DL