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outhouse still doesn't understand the logical fallacy of misleading vividness

Post by spin » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:25 pm

outhouse wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:10 pm
spin wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:41 pm
Nothing to do with ordinary muslims. It was an IS militant. .
Shows how little you know about islam.

There is a REASON this religious ideology produces the most cowardly acts of terrorism out of any religion. YOU have not discussed a single aspect.

YOUI only make excuses and point the finger elsewhere. TYPICAL liberal snowflake methodology.
Jesus, you're being dopey, still jabbering about Islam when a tool with automatic weapons just took out 59 people injuring 270+ others at a country music festival. This is the 271st mass shooting this year. Radicalized muslims pail in comparison to such cowardly acts, fostered by automatic gun sales. You're so dumb with all your "look-over-there" nonsense, it's a wonder you can't see the flashing all-say-sucker tiara sign on your head.

You're just going to keep crapping on about muslims because of the acts of a few vile nutjobs. Vile acts caused by various nutters happen around you. Wake up to yourself and stop singling out the acts of a few religious nutters out to gain traction and putting it on all muslims. This is your perennial logical failure. Your not alone in it: there are lots of fools with the same problem.

All you are doing is giving those vile people perpetrating the acts you note more traction. Misleading vividness gives those few acts by IS too much significance. You are turning those few acts into the acts of all and helping foster their cause. You are working with the enemy. So keep trying to drive ordinary muslims to join IS. It may not be your intention, but that is the end result of your tunnel vision. This stupidity is fostered by traditional media, helping you to focus not on your real problems but about things that are more politically useful to the economy. Hating muslims is good for the military industrial complex, so your hate is focused muslims. Don't focus on the 271 homegrown massacres: muslims do terrible things, so the guns used in the massacres are unimportant. It's not important that women are murdered in their own homes by their spouses: your anger needs redirecting. Remember the Maine. Remember Pearl Harbor. Remember 9/11. Forget about the other less important things. Putty.
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Re: sentenced to death for atheism’

Post by Ulan » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:22 pm

outhouse wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:05 pm
Ulan wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:09 am
You need sources for the reasons of the 2003 invasion of Iraq?
Non sequitur.
You have made abundantly clear in this thread that you are unable to understand this logical connection, so no surprise here. Without the 2003 invasion of Iraq, there would be no IS today. Period.
outhouse wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:05 pm
Political reasons ARE NOT religious reasons like islam uses to commit their cowardly acts of terror and violence.
No, with most Islamic terrorists, the reasons are pretty much political or personal. You can look at the case reports, and most of them have no real idea about Islam. They repeat a few slogans that some of the agitators in the background told them to push them into action, but most come from a secular background and have been freshly radicalized.

You still forget that the US and its allies are throwing bombs on Iraq and Syria even now. We are at war with them. They cannot come with airplanes and throw bombs on our houses in retaliation, and that's why they have to find a different channel to do this, by motivating vulnerable people to perform terror acts for them. That's what asymmetric wars are all about. But it's easy to forget you are at war when you sit in your comfy computer chair.
outhouse wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:05 pm
They were also acting like animals committing genocide, human rights in Saddam Hussein's Iraq was worth the trip.
One thing I would really like to know is how Bush Jr. thinks nowadays about what he has done. Were the hundreds of thousands of dead people really worth it in order to produce a failed state that is in the hands of different warring factions nowadays? Was the creation of ISIS and the asymmetric war that followed worth it? Does the US public still think they somehow "won" this war? Are you one of those people where the "Mission Accomplished" banner under which Bush held his speech is not seen as the cruel joke it was?

Saddam was an asshole, and yes, he was a murderous asshole. He was also a valued friend of the US by the way. When he waged war against Iran, he was a useful puppet. When he tried to get his hands on the oil of Kuwait, it interfered with the business interests of the West, and he was dropped like a hot potato. Assad is also a murderous asshole. Guess what who is also a murderous asshole, but he is "our" asshole, and we just wag a finger when he tortures and kills one of our citizens? Sisi of Egypt. He is just in the "useful puppet" stage at the moment.

And you still fall for this bullshit rhetoric that this war of 2003 ff. was done for "humanitarian reasons". I know this reasoning is trotted out to calm the public in the US, especially the former troops that were sent out to perform this disaster. But really, think a bit harder.

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Re: sentenced to death for atheism’

Post by spin » Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:36 am

This tweet from @mehdirhasan is quite to the point of media manipulate of ignorant people:

"The #lasvegas shooter lived a "quiet life" & enjoyed "country music". Can you imagine a Muslim shooter being so quickly humanized like this?" [*]
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Re: sentenced to death for atheism’

Post by outhouse » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:38 am

Ulan wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:22 pm
You have made abundantly clear in this thread that you are unable to understand this logical connection, so no surprise here. Without the 2003 invasion of Iraq, there would be no IS today. Period.
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I understand quite well the power vacuum left due to politics and war.

It is still making excuses for animal like cowardly acts of Islamic primitive ideology, which is why we WERE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.


NO OTHER religion commits such primitive cowardly acts.

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Re: sentenced to death for atheism’

Post by outhouse » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:41 am

spin wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:36 am
This tweet from @mehdirhasan is quite to the point of media manipulate of ignorant people:

"The #lasvegas shooter lived a "quiet life" & enjoyed "country music". Can you imagine a Muslim shooter being so quickly humanized like this?" [*]
I will not jump the gun on this guy yet.

But if his recent girlfriend is Indonesian as reported, it will explain the motive. I am still waiting for more REAL evidence to be provided.

If he did convert the fake news surely will not report his new found religious status, if true.

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Re: sentenced to death for atheism’

Post by outhouse » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:55 am

Ulan wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:22 pm


And you still fall for this bullshit rhetoric that this war of 2003 ff. was done for "humanitarian reasons"..
No. I know it was an excuse. But a real one that actually justified our presence.

After 9.11 our ""presence"" should have been felt much more then it actually was.

No, with most Islamic terrorists, the reasons are pretty much political or personal.
The reason this thread started was DUE TO THESE PRIMIRIVE ANIMALS murdering atheist due to religious belief. IE their ideology. STOP ignoring such.

FACT IS, these animals have been fighting and murdering each other since the religion started by bloodshed alone.

Their constant violence and inability to promote peace and education and knowledge has left the divide between the REAl WORLD and these people. A gap way too large to bridge their ideology to secular countries. HELL they cannot even treat their own religious sects with civility :roll:

Fact is most muslims hate your guts. A Christian in a muslim country is beheaded by animals.

A muslim in Christian countries is factually not treated as such. Less a few primitive Christian countries were no moderation in religion exist.


NO ONE IS SAYING political reasons do not exist, but factually ideology is at the core of it all. Fact is there is a thinner line between a normal muslim and terrorist, then any other religion. These people have never made good neighbors for anyone, not even themselves.

No other faith has committed as much religious genocide in the last 100 years as these people, and the numbers are mind blowing. The sectarian violence over a myth is ignored by western civilizations.

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Re: outhouse still doesn't understand the logical fallacy of misleading vividness

Post by outhouse » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:58 am

spin wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:25 pm

Jesus, you're being dopey, still jabbering about Islam when a tool with automatic weapons just took out 59 people injuring 270+ others at a country music festival. This is the 271st mass shooting this year. Radicalized muslims pail in comparison to such cowardly acts, fostered by automatic gun sales. You're so dumb with all your "look-over-there" nonsense, it's a wonder you can't see the flashing all-say-sucker tiara sign on your head.

You're just going to keep crapping on about muslims because of the acts of a few vile nutjobs. Vile acts caused by various nutters happen around you. Wake up to yourself and stop singling out the acts of a few religious nutters out to gain traction and putting it on all muslims. This is your perennial logical failure. Your not alone in it: there are lots of fools with the same problem.

All you are doing is giving those vile people perpetrating the acts you note more traction. Misleading vividness gives those few acts by IS too much significance. You are turning those few acts into the acts of all and helping foster their cause. You are working with the enemy. So keep trying to drive ordinary muslims to join IS. It may not be your intention, but that is the end result of your tunnel vision. This stupidity is fostered by traditional media, helping you to focus not on your real problems but about things that are more politically useful to the economy. Hating muslims is good for the military industrial complex, so your hate is focused muslims. Don't focus on the 271 homegrown massacres: muslims do terrible things, so the guns used in the massacres are unimportant. It's not important that women are murdered in their own homes by their spouses: your anger needs redirecting. Remember the Maine. Remember Pearl Harbor. Remember 9/11. Forget about the other less important things. Putty.
Shows how little you know about islam.

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Re: sentenced to death for atheism’

Post by outhouse » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:01 am

Hard to believe so many are fooled by Islamic ethnic cleansing and jihad. The numbers are over 50 million in the last 100 years. And you just make excuses for these factual numbers. Like these people will magically stop 1400 years of genocide and sectarian religious violence.

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Re: outhouse still doesn't understand the logical fallacy of misleading vividness

Post by outhouse » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:07 am

spin wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:25 pm
Jesus, you're being dopey, still jabbering about Islam when a tool with automatic weapons just took out 59 people injuring 270+ others at a country music festival. This is the 271st mass shooting this year. Radicalized muslims pail in comparison to such cowardly acts, fostered by automatic gun sales.
Sorry, Islamic terrorism is not ruled out here. But please carry on like you know the conclusion which makes all of your historical studies worthless knowing you cannot even report current events correctly, let alone past events.
You're so dumb
Right back at you snowflake


By the way there are no radicalized muslims, anyone living Sharia law is deemed radicalized.

Radicalized is a liberal invented term to describe most muslims ideology.


Does a YEC refuse history and science? same thing with muslims, they are just more violent. They have no religious moderation.

There is no such thing as a moderate YEC, or a moderate muslim despite the fake terms given to them.

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Re: sentenced to death for atheism’

Post by outhouse » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:12 am

sharia law must be banned globally as it is very primitive

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