superman (father) speaks to clark kent (son)nope identities are not minds. One mind three identities, Superman, Cal El and Clark Kent, how many men?
so separate persons
each conscious of their speech to each other
superman (father) speaks to clark kent (son)nope identities are not minds. One mind three identities, Superman, Cal El and Clark Kent, how many men?
I guess you don't know anything about Superman. Superman is not Clark Kent's father he is Clark Kent. you can talk to yourself that doesn't make you two peopletheterminator wrote:superman (father) speaks to clark kent (son)nope identities are not minds. One mind three identities, Superman, Cal El and Clark Kent, how many men?
so separate persons
each conscious of their speech to each other
I know you think your being cleaver but you are just obfuscating. you are trying to screw it to make it seem screwy, you don'[t want truth, you don't want an answer do you?theterminator wrote:why do you call them 3 gods when I clearly said they share one divine nature, that makes them one God.
father shares 1 nature
ghost shares 1 nature
son shares 1 nature
so nature is shared by 3 . which means the son god depends on the others to be complete trinity?
like eve is adamthree identities in on essence, Essence is that which makes a thing what it is,?
cain is adam
adam is adam
each share 1 nature so we have 3 persons 1 adam/1human
3 conscious gods who share nature.thus the three are one God,
moreover no similarity between pagan gods a d God. God is the eternal necessary aspect of being and pagan gods are contingent beings,
yes your god the son is contingent upon the other gods because each is sharing same nature.
the father cannot be all seeing without the son because the son needs the father
english please.It's one thing that is manifested in three identities,
one thing? you mean one nature?
yes 1 god became a human beingJesus prayed to him in the garden
and was conscious of his prayer to ANOTHER being = 2 beings
jesus who is not trinity /3 persons prayed to
3 persons/trinity
nature
or
1 person?
nope identities are not minds. One mind three identities, Superman, Cal El and Clark Kent, how many men?
you are giving 3 names to 1 person
but the gods you worship are separated by being conscious of their DIFFERENCES and doing things for each other
when the dad of jesus watches his son incarnate , he , the dad is not incarnating
the word used by church fathers as persona, that word refers to the mask worn by a Greek actor on stage, it represents a character or identity but not a separate person from the actor,
so when the son died in his acting the father died too? no he remained SEPARATE
the three persona share one essence. the thing that makes them what they are they share. so yes all three
or is it the "one nature" which is speaking?
of course it is.
son = speaker
ghost = speaker
father = speaker
not 3 speakers ,1 speaker?
so a WHAT is speaking?
theterminator wrote:i am not the one using "identity" "essence" and other bullshit words to confuse.
i am using english to my level of understanding . english isn't even my first language so i will use basic terminology to make things easier for myself
The Nicene creed. thank youHuon wrote:1979 Episcopal Church (United States) Book of Common Prayer
We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary, and was made man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered death and was buried. On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures; he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.
because you refuse to understand what essence means. That's the term they and they used it for a reason. it means they three persona share the same essence so they are one God.theterminator wrote:i still see 3 separate gods.
honestly the way you describe your god it seems like a company which holds 3 lesser things which are not co equal to the whole.because you refuse to understand what essence means. That's the term they and they used it for a reason. it means they three persona share the same essence so they are one God.