neque ad modicum tempus = 'not a little time.' Is this saying that Paul subjected himself for 'not a little time' i.e. a while or not even a little time?Quibus neque ad modicum tempus humiliavimus nosmetipsos in subjectione, in observatione, inquam, legis ; ut imitatores nostri sitis, neque declinetis ; ut veritas Evangelii, quod praedicavimus vobis, confirmetur apud vos. Qui autem praesumpserint gloriari se aliquid esse, eo quod observant vetus cum novo, quemadmodum in hoc seusu erant illi ; nihil curae est mihi de illis. Deus enim personam hominum accipere nescit, eorum qui putant se placere illi, observando legem, et circumcisionem Abrahae.
More Proof Against Marcion was Rewritten More than Once
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I am struggling with the Latin as it is not a copy of the Vulgate:
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
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Re: More Proof Against Marcion was Rewritten More than Once
I believe the full force of the neque ought to be in play: "not even," in this case. So Paul did not subject himself, "not even for a little bit of time."Secret Alias wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:15 pm I am struggling with the Latin as it is not a copy of the Vulgate:
neque ad modicum tempus = 'not a little time.' Is this saying that Paul subjected himself for 'not a little time' i.e. a while or not even a little time?Quibus neque ad modicum tempus humiliavimus nosmetipsos in subjectione, in observatione, inquam, legis ; ut imitatores nostri sitis, neque declinetis ; ut veritas Evangelii, quod praedicavimus vobis, confirmetur apud vos. Qui autem praesumpserint gloriari se aliquid esse, eo quod observant vetus cum novo, quemadmodum in hoc seusu erant illi ; nihil curae est mihi de illis. Deus enim personam hominum accipere nescit, eorum qui putant se placere illi, observando legem, et circumcisionem Abrahae.
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Thanks. I suspected that was the case but we all have a little Giuseppe in us. Some stronger than others.
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
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See https://biblicalstudies.org.uk/pdf/jts/030_279.pdfdavidmartin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:46 pm so you want you some Marcion, how about let the guy speak for himself?
Quote apparently comes from a writer called Harnak from an old syriac manuscript, couldn't find out moreO wonder beyond wonders, rapture, power, and amazement is it, that one can say nothing at all about the gospel, nor even conceive of it, nor compare it with anything
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