Daniel is Joseph / origin of Circumcision?

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Daniel is Joseph / origin of Circumcision?

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An interesting theory of mine, is that Daniel and Joseph are the same character.

Similarities
Pharaoh as a dream, he called upon 'Magicians'(chartom חַרְטֹם) who could not interpret.(Gen 41:8)
Nebuchadnezzar II as a dream, He called upon ' Magicians' (chartom חַרְטֹם)) who could not interpret(Dan 2:2)


Joseph summoned to interpret the Dream (Gen 41:15)
Daniel summoned to interpret the Dream (Dan 2:26)

Joseph is made ruler of Egypt (Gen 41:43)
Daniel made ruler of Babylon (Dan 2:48)

Given a golden chain to wear around their neck (Gen 41:42 )
Given a golden chain to wear around their neck (Dan 5:29)

Daniel 1:7 prince of the eunuchs 'שַׂר הַסָּרִיסִים' ( Sar Cariyc )
Genesis 40:2 Prince of the Eunuch 'סָרִיסָיו שַׂר ( Sar Cariyc )


The most striking similarity, both Joseph and Daniel were sold to a so-called 'prince of the Eunuchs' , (Gen 37:36 / Dan 1:11), using
the same Hebrew , סָרִיס( Cariyc) is εὐνούχοις [Eunuch] in the Septuagint, It also presents a problem with the 'Joseph narrative, there is no evidence of Eunuchs being used in Ancient Egypt, but it was a practice associated with the Persians, who castrated it's slaves .

The word Eunuch ( εὐνούχ) , this word actually exists in Hebrew, it is אֱנוֹשׁ ('Enosh ) which means 'castrated man' , the root word given for 'Enosh is 'Anash (אָנַשׁ) which means 'incurable' see Jeremiah 15:18 ' my wound is incurable', What also supports this, is that Ancients commonly castrated Donkeys and Horses, a castrated donkey was called an 'Enosh (ὄνος), a castrated horse is a Mule, see the Hebrew
'מוּלָה' ( MULE ) or 'מָהַל' (MAHAL ) that translate 'Circumcise' , the Hebrew word for a Mule however is פֶּרֶד' 'PERED' , a root form of the Greek word Peritome(περιτομή) (Circumcise) , also περί 'Peri' (all-around) compare with Wild-Ass 'פֶּרֶא' (PERE ).

Thus another theory, all the Patriarchs were Eunuchs and the children were all adopted , thus explaining barren-wives.

Genesis 11:30 - Abraham's wife barren
Genesis 25:21 - Isaac's wife barren
Genesis 29:31 - Jacob's wives barren

The Hebrew word סָרִיס( CRIC ) 'castration', is similar too Greek κρίκος ( KRIKOS) ' Ring/Circle' and with כָּרַת (Karath) 'to cut
and thus root of the Latin ' Circum ' ( Circumcise ) and thus Castration and Circumcision can be confused with one another, or that Circumcision is a ritualistic reminder of slavery .
https://vivliothikiagiasmatos.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/joseph-yahuda-hebrew-is-greek.pdf
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Re: Daniel is Joseph / origin of Circumcision?

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They are two names that are only mentioned in Daniel and Genesis.

Gen 2:14 - The third river is Hiddekel
Dan 10:4 - Great river, which is Hiddekel;

Gen 14:1 - Arioch king of Ellasar,
Dan 2:15 - Daniel went in unto Arioch

The characters between Adam and Noah.
Enosh/Enoch ( Eunuchs)
Mahalaleel ( Mahal = Circumcise)
Lamech ( Mech(מַכָּה) = my wound)
Methusalah ( Bethuwlah)

Hiddekel ( κατακλείς ) 'artificial river' was one of the conduits built by Hezekiah [ 2 Ki 20:20][Isa 36:2] towards the end of the Persian Empire and thus the chronology of Genesis and Daniel align with one another.

Joseph made ruler of Egypt (Gen 41:43)
Daniel made ruler of the province of Babylon (Dan 2:48)

Babylon became a 'province' during the Persian Empire, note the word province is 'mĕdiynah (MDINE ) , see Exodus 2:15 ' Land of Midian (MDIN) (Persian times), 'ruler' in Dan 2:48 is the Aramaic שְׁלֵט (Shelet ) , another Greek word, from βασιλίζω ( Ba'Silizo ) (to be of the king's party), which shows the entire Old Testament is Hellenistic.
https://vivliothikiagiasmatos.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/joseph-yahuda-hebrew-is-greek.pdf
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