Joshua/Jesus - etymology.

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Joshua/Jesus - etymology.

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The name Jesus is a transliteration of Joshua, which apparently means ' Yahweh Saves ' יְהוֹשׁוּעַ , however if you look at the Hebrew , it does not , anyone who is able to read Hebrew can see that, If יְהֹוָה + יָשַׁע = יְהוֹשׁוּעַ then 1 + 1 = 3, However you can combine and produce the name Isaiah.

יְהוֹשׁוּעַ can be split into two word Ieu (יְהוֹ) + Suo (שׁוּעַ) and the suffix is found in another name, Beth-Shua in 1 Chronicles 3:5 which is a dialectic form of Beth-Sheba, the mother of King Solomon, which means יהושוע can be written יהושבע '( Ieu-Sbo ) (yeh sheh bah).

The word Sheba, first appears in the name Beersheba , Beer means Well, same as Gk φρέαρ (Phrear) and Sheba derives from the Gk σέβω
meaning Oath and thus Beersheba means 'Well of Oath' , In Greek φρέαρ-σέβω in Hebrew בְּאֵר שֶׁבַע with the same definition, the 'Well of Oath' is also found in Greek mythology, see Asbamaios and Fountain of youth.

The problem with Hebrew, every name that begins with יהו ( Ieu ) is automatically assumed to be Yahweh , but in actually it serves as a prefix article, cognate with Greek εὖ ( to be ) , transliterated in Hebrew as ' יהו and thus εὖσέβω ( Eusebus ) or which means 'Pious', this is also the etymology of Joseph / Josephus.

The name Εὐσεϐής was a popular title in the Levant and Cappadocia during the Hellenistic period , the time these names begin appearing.

example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariarathe ... Cappadocia

Εὐσεϐής > יהושבע > Joshua / Jesus
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Jacob is a confusing name in Hebrew but is resolved with the Greek language, In Greek δικαίου ( Dikaiou ) means Set-right / righteousness and equivalent too Zadok , צָדַק ( ZD-K) צדיק (ZDIK) from δικαίου (D-K) , root is δίκη (DIK), the Gk υ becomes B in Hebrew , so Dikaiou > Dikaiob > Ikaiob > יַעֲקֹב ( Jacob ) and these can be seen when Jacob is introduced in the Septuagint.

Genesis LXX
27:36 καὶ εἶπεν δικαίως ἐκλήθη τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ Ιακωβ

Abraham derives from Gk 'εὕρημα or Ebhrma meaning 'discoverer' originally named Abram, from Gk πέρα meaning 'wanderer' , He begin as a Wanderer (Abram) and discovered ( Abraham)

Isaac is a play on 'ἰχθύς (Fish) and Dzouk (Armenian for fish) (δικαίου) for how he is described in Genesis 48:16, Let him grow and multiply (like a Fish), the Hebrew word used here is דָּגָה (dagah) and alluding too Ichthyophagi (fish-eaters) who showed the way to the fountain of youth ( beersheba) explaining the longevity of the patriarchs.
When the Ichthyophagi (Fish-eaters) showed wonder at the number of the years, he led them to a fountain, wherein when they had washed, they found their flesh all glossy and sleek, as if they had bathed in oil- and a scent came from the spring like that of violets. The water was so weak, they said, that nothing would float in it, neither wood, nor any lighter substance, but all went to the bottom. If the account of this fountain be true, it would be their constant use of the water from it which makes them so long-lived - Herodotus
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I can also address 'Messiah , the title given to Jesus, but the current definition doesn't make any sense, 'rubbed in oil' , the Hebrew
word Messiah derives from the Greek word μουσικός (Mousikos) meaning 'music/muse, indeed even sounds like Mashiyach and the Arabic mūsīqā.

The reason Messiah means Anointed, from a Greek word meaning Music, is because they use a musical instrument too anoint.

1 Samuel 16:13
Then Samuel took the horn of oil, and anointed him

The Hebrew word for Horn , is קֶרֶן ( Qeren ), cognate with Greek κέρας ( Keras) also means Cornet, see Daniel 3:5
that reads 'sound of the cornet' , the Greek word Symphonia (Symphony ) transliterates into Hebrew as שֶׁמֶן (Shemen) which
also means Oil.

1 Kings 1:39
Zadok the priest took an horn of oil(Shemen) out of the tabernacle, and anointed (Mused) Solomon as they blew the trumpet

The Hebrew word Messiah, which is שִׂיחָה can also be written שִׂיחַ ( Sih ) meaning Mediator, reflection, Sing and musing, also written SDH (שִׁדָּה) a musical instrument, or Massa (מַשָּׂא) meaning Music same as Μοῦσαι and related to words meaning Measure, Metronome and Meditation.

Psalms 119:97
MEM. O how love I thy law! it is my meditation(שִׂיחָה) all the day
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