Re: The Samaritan schism.
Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 10:18 am
I am mentally and physically exhausted today. How do guys manage to think about ancient stuff and keep up with things here and have your lives? I only have limited access to the internet at the library (up to two hours a day) and work, and I can't imagine spending more time online (and thinking about online stuff) more than I already do.
Anyway, I dig what you're saying about the DH being from the Persian period. Maybe so. And Ezra and Nehemiah seem like plausible candidates for doing this, and I think they at least had a hand in redacting the Torah. However, Jeremiah does use similar language as Deuteronomy (and the rest of the DH), and I've noted some examples of this from Friedman. He also points out that Jeremiah is the only prophet who mentions Samuel (http://biblehub.net/searchprophets.php?q=samuel).
Jer. 17:24: "But if you are careful to obey me, declares the LORD ..."
Dt. 28:1: "If you fully obey the LORD your God and carefully follow all his commands I give you today..."
Jer. 4:4: "Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, circumcise your hearts, you people of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem ..."
Dt. 10:16: "Circumcise your hearts, therefore, and do not be stiff-necked any longer."
Jer. 8:2, 19:13: "They will be exposed to the sun and the moon and all the stars of the heavens, which they have loved and served and which they have followed and consulted and worshiped. They will not be gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground."
Dt. 4:19, 17:3: "And when you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars--all the heavenly array--do not be enticed into bowing down to them and worshiping things the LORD your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven."
Jer. 11:4: "...the terms I commanded your ancestors when I brought them out of Egypt, out of the iron-smelting furnace.' I said, 'Obey me and do everything I command you, and you will be my people, and I will be your God."
Dt. 4:20: "But as for you, the LORD took you and brought you out of the iron-smelting furnace, out of Egypt, to be the people of his inheritance, as you now are."
Jer. 32:41: "I will rejoice in doing them good and will assuredly plant them in this land with all my heart and soul."
Dt. 4:29, 10:12, 11:13, 13:4: "But if from there you seek the LORD your God, you will find him if you seek him with all your heart and with all your soul."
And I'm seeing that this "heart and soul" expression also only turns up in Joshua, Samuel and Kings (and Chronicles, which is a rewrite of Kings):
http://biblehub.net/searchot.php?q=heart+and+soul
Anyway, I dig what you're saying about the DH being from the Persian period. Maybe so. And Ezra and Nehemiah seem like plausible candidates for doing this, and I think they at least had a hand in redacting the Torah. However, Jeremiah does use similar language as Deuteronomy (and the rest of the DH), and I've noted some examples of this from Friedman. He also points out that Jeremiah is the only prophet who mentions Samuel (http://biblehub.net/searchprophets.php?q=samuel).
Jer. 17:24: "But if you are careful to obey me, declares the LORD ..."
Dt. 28:1: "If you fully obey the LORD your God and carefully follow all his commands I give you today..."
Jer. 4:4: "Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, circumcise your hearts, you people of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem ..."
Dt. 10:16: "Circumcise your hearts, therefore, and do not be stiff-necked any longer."
Jer. 8:2, 19:13: "They will be exposed to the sun and the moon and all the stars of the heavens, which they have loved and served and which they have followed and consulted and worshiped. They will not be gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground."
Dt. 4:19, 17:3: "And when you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars--all the heavenly array--do not be enticed into bowing down to them and worshiping things the LORD your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven."
Jer. 11:4: "...the terms I commanded your ancestors when I brought them out of Egypt, out of the iron-smelting furnace.' I said, 'Obey me and do everything I command you, and you will be my people, and I will be your God."
Dt. 4:20: "But as for you, the LORD took you and brought you out of the iron-smelting furnace, out of Egypt, to be the people of his inheritance, as you now are."
Jer. 32:41: "I will rejoice in doing them good and will assuredly plant them in this land with all my heart and soul."
Dt. 4:29, 10:12, 11:13, 13:4: "But if from there you seek the LORD your God, you will find him if you seek him with all your heart and with all your soul."
And I'm seeing that this "heart and soul" expression also only turns up in Joshua, Samuel and Kings (and Chronicles, which is a rewrite of Kings):
http://biblehub.net/searchot.php?q=heart+and+soul