Yebbut. Five points, and counting...
Textbook Whataboutery:
Secret Alias wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:51 am"Son of bitch/whore" doesn't mean you grew up in bordello.
True, but 'those of Jewish descent'
have often hidden their ethnic/religious identity -- and closeted "homos" (even antigay politicos)
do get exposed. Oopsie!
"The lady doth
protest too much, methinks." Smoke, Fire, and
All That, lol
Point 6: Another Salome, enmeshed in the Scandal/Trial.
And Point 7: Claudius' role in these Jewish marriages.
See Clark Hopkins, "Date of the Trial of Isidorus and Lampo before Claudius" Yale Classical Studies, Vol. 1 [1928],
p.175:
A very difficult problem, brightened, however, by the gleam of scandal, is that raised by the presence of Agrippa at the trial and by the mention of Salome (according to the interpretation of Wilcken) at the end. Is the King Agrippa mentioned Agrippa I or Agrippa II, and how is Salome related to him or to Claudius? [...] it should have been brought up when Claudius first came to the throne and Agrippa I, who was directly involved, was a power at Rome. We know from Josephus25 that Agrippa I had been extremely instrumental in helping Claudius obtain the throne. With both Agrippa I and his brother Herod, later king of Chalcis, Claudius was on terms of the closest friendship. Claudius personally gave Berenice, widow of the son of Alexander the alabarch and daughter of Agrippa, to Herod as his wife and made Herod king of Chalcis. Furthermore, Josephus mentions (Ant., XIX, 277) at just this time a revolt of the Jews in Alexandria. Claudius, at the request of the kings Agrippa and Herod, sent commands to both Egypt and Syria that no harm should come to the Jews on account of the madness of Gaius, and that their former rights should be preserved. We cannot even be sure that the Salome mentioned is to be associated with Agrippa, though her Jewish origin and the presence of Agrippa point strongly to it. The son of Herod of Chalcis, by his first wife, was Aristobulus, who married Salome (daughter of Herod the Great and Elpis). Salome had been the wife of Pheroras, her cousin, and was left a widow in A.D. 34. It was probably soon after this date that she married Aristobulus. Since Herod had as yet obtained no kingdom when Claudius came to the throne, it is at least probable that Aristobulus was with his father at Rome. It is not impossible that the friendly relations of Claudius with Agrippa and Herod extended to the latter's daughterin-law. It would certainly be sufficient ground for the jibe if court gossip attributed any influence over Claudius to Salome.
'Meh, trivial'? It's Hollywood legend, bro.