Zeus is the Jewish God.

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Re: Zeus is the Jewish God.

Post by Ethan » Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:12 pm

When Greek words are put into Phoenician, as you know, Vowels are stripped down, sometimes consonants.

Gen 14:1 - Chedorlaomer [Χοδολλογομορ]
- Xodollogomor > Xdllgmr > Kdrlomr [כְּדָרְלָעֹמֶר]
Hosea 9:6 - Moph [ Μέμφις ]
- Memfis > Mefis > MF [מֹף]

Most often words have a hidden M or N but isn't written in the name, Mars & Ares are the same name, same etymology, thus where did Latins get the M from, same occurs in Hebrew with many of it's words.

Amram is Ambram [Αμβραμ ]
Nimrod is Nebrod [Νεβρωδ]
Yasher [יֹשֶׁר] is Misher [מִישׁוֹר]
Rib [רִיב] is Meribah [מְרִיבָה]
ἀντιβολία is מת-פלל , תְּפִלָּה and פלל
ἁλυκή is Malakh [מֶלַח ]
עָקַל [Akal ] is Agkulos[ἀγκύλος] is Angulus
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Re: Zeus is the Jewish God.

Post by lpetrich » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:20 am

Pseudolinguistic tripe. /m/ is usually very stable. I looked at some tables of sound correspondences, and I found that /m/ is very stable in Indo-European, Semitic, and Uralic, at least.

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Re: Zeus is the Jewish God.

Post by Ethan » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:51 am

2 Kings 5:12
Amanah[אֲמָנָה] or Abanah [אֲבָנָה]

There is interchanging between B & M

In both the MT & LXX , Abinadab and Aminadab interchange, this occurs in so many names and thus makes it difficult to distinguish who is who and where is where in the Bible.

The Arabic name 'Mecca' was originally 'Becca' [בָּכָא] .

Prefix M
In Hebrew, יָשָׁר & מִישׁוֹר are identical in meaning. 'level-place' , the cognate is מְשׂוּרָה ' to measure ' (to make straight), In Latin it's Mensura and Metrius in Gk.

Me(n)sura is מְשׂוּרָה ( by dropping the N)
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Re: Zeus is the Jewish God.

Post by Ethan » Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:17 am

מַיִם [ Mayim ] .
> B'yim - B'dim - P'tom - ποταμός (River)
> W'yim - W'tim - ὑετός (Rain), ὕδωρ (Water)
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Re: Zeus is the Jewish God.

Post by lpetrich » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:19 pm

Here are some comparative-linguistics resources. These are word lists without any grammar, but it should be easy to tell which languages are most closely related.

Appendix:Swadesh lists - Wiktionary -- meanings whose word forms tend to be very stable
The Numbers List -- 1 to 10 in a large number of languages

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Re: Zeus is the Jewish God.

Post by Ethan » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:49 pm

lpetrich wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:19 pm
Here are some comparative-linguistics resources. These are word lists without any grammar, but it should be easy to tell which languages are most closely related.

Appendix:Swadesh lists - Wiktionary -- meanings whose word forms tend to be very stable
The Numbers List -- 1 to 10 in a large number of languages
I use words Swadesh list too find cognates, how about that Arabic.

Arabic
قَرْن qarn " Horn" - cornu , κερᾶν
سَنَّ Sinn "teeth" - den, ὀδόν
لسان‎ Lisan "tongue" - glossan γλῶσσαν
قدم‎ Qadam "foot" - Pode πόδε
قلب Qalpon "heart" - Kolpon κόλπον

ὁ̂ θυμός > ὁ̂ ηαμaδ > Muhammad (محمد‎ )
ὀπηδός ἡλίου > Abdul (عبد ال) '
ὁ̂ ἡλίου (אל עלה) > Allah (الله‎ )
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Re: Zeus is the Jewish God.

Post by Steven Avery » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:57 pm

Ben C. Smith wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:51 pm
Jupiter = Zeu-Pater or Dyeus-Pater.
Latin to Latin:
Steven Avery wrote:
Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:33 pm
yahweh == jupiter

Jupiter is Jove-pater .. father Jove

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Re: Zeus is the Jewish God.

Post by Ethan » Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:55 pm

Jupiter - יהו פטר 𐤉𐤄𐤅 𐤐‬𐤈𐤓
Jove - יהוה 𐤉𐤄𐤅𐤄
Saturn - 𐤒𐤑𐤉𐤓 , 𐤒𐤑𐤓 vקציר , קצר
Bacchus - בכא 𐤁‬𐤊‬𐤀
Mars - מרי 𐤌‬𐤓𐤉
Vulcan - בעל חם 𐤁𐤏𐤋 𐤇‬𐤌
Neptune - תנינ, תנ 𐤕𐤍‬𐤅𐤍‬, 𐤕𐤍‬
Luna - לבנה 𐤋𐤁‬𐤍‬𐤄
Apollo - בעל 𐤁𐤏𐤋
Ceres - גרש 𐤂𐤓𐤔
Sabus - שבע 𐤔𐤁𐤏
Salus - שלות 𐤔𐤁𐤅𐤕
Caelus -כל 𐤊‬𐤋
Fides - קשט 𐤒𐤔𐤈
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Re: Zeus is the Jewish God.

Post by lpetrich » Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:37 pm

No explanations of what the Hebrew words are supposed to mean.

MichiganToday has an article by linguist Vitaly Shevoroshkin. He described how his colleague Aaron Dolgopolsky constructed a sort of mini Swadesh list. He searched through some 140 languages of Europe and Asia to find out which meanings have the most stable word forms.

He rejected imitative sounds (buzz), interjections (ouch), and baby-talk words (mama). The words he found were mostly nouns, including several body parts, but few adjectives and no verbs.

1: I/me, 2: two/pair, 3: thou/thee/you, 4: who/what, 5: tongue, 6: name, 7: eye, 8: heart, 9: tooth, 10: no/not (both ordinary negative and prohibitive), 11: fingernail/toenail, 12: louse, 13: tear (from eye), 14: water, 15: dead.

He found some more words that changed a little more often.

16: nit (louse egg), 17: Moon, 18: hand, 19: night, 20: blood, 21: horn, 22: full, 23: Sun, 24: ear, 25: salt.

From "A Probabilistic Hypothesis Concerning the Oldest Relationships Among the Language Families in Northern Eurasia", translated in "Typology, Relationship and Time", by Shevoroshkin and Markey, Karoma Publishers (1986) Ann Arbor MI.

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Re: Zeus is the Jewish God.

Post by lpetrich » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:01 pm

I used "to die" instead of "dead", and "tear (from eye)" and "nit" were absent.

Old English: 1: ic, me-, 2: twēġen, twā, tū, 3: þū, 4: hwā, hwæt, 5: tunge, 6: nama, 7: ēage, 8: heorte, 9: tōþ, 10: ne, 11: fingernæġel, 12: lūs, 13: -, 14: wæter, 15: (to die) steorfan, 16: -, 17: mōna, 18: hand, 19: neaht, niht, 20: blōd, 21: horn, 22: full, 23: sōl; sunne, 24: ēare, 25: sealt

Notice how all of this list survived into present-day English, though the word for "to die" became "to die from lack of food."

Latin: 1. ego, me-, 2: duō, 3: tū, 4: quis (m.), quae (f.), quid (n.), 5: lingua, 6: nōmen, 7: oculus, 8: cor(d-), 9: dens, dent-, 10: nōn, nē, 11: unguis, 12: pēdīculus, 13: -, 14: aqua, 15: (to die) morī, 16: -, 17: lūna, 18: manus, 19: nox, noct-, 20: sanguis, 21: cornū, 22: plēnus, 23: sol, 24: auris, 25: sal

Several of these words are cognate with the English ones, some with easy sound correspondences, like for /n/, /m/, and /s/, and some with sound changes like /k/ ~ /h/, /p/ ~ /f/, /t/ ~ /th/, /d/ ~ /t/. One can see these in other words, like pater ~ father, ped- ~ foot, três ~ three, istud ~ that, decem ~ ten, ... There are additional ones, like /f/ ~ /b/, like in frāter ~ brother. There is an oddity, however. For "tongue", one would expect /d/ instead of /l/.

Classical Greek: 1: ἐγώ (egṓ), (e)me-, 2: δύο (dúo), 3: σύ (sú), 4: τίς (tís), τί (tí), 5: γλῶσσα (glôssa), 6: ὄνομα (ónoma), 7: ὀφθαλμός (ophthalmós), 8: καρδία (kardía), 9: ὀδούς (odoús), odont-, 10: οὐ (ou), μή (mḗ), 11: ὄνυξ (ónux), 12: φθείρ (phtheír), 13: -, 14: ὕδωρ (húdōr), hudat-, 15: (I die) ἀποθνῄσκω (apothnḗiskō), θνῄσκω (thnḗiskō), τελευτάω (teleutáō), ὄλομαι (ólomai), 16: -, 17: σελήνη (selḗnē), 18: χείρ (kheír), 19: νύξ (núx), nukt-, 20: αἷμα (haîma), haimat-, 21: κέρας (kéras), kerat-, 22: μεστός (mestós), πλήρης (plḗrēs), 23: ἥλιος (hḗlios), 24: οὖς (oûs), ôt-, 25: ἅλς (háls)

This list has some words that rather recognizably correspond to their Latin and English counterparts, like "I", "thou", "who/what", "name", "heart", "tooth", "night", "full", "Sun", "salt". Though for the last two words, we have Greek /h/ ~ English and Latin /s/.

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