Simon bar Giora hurled from the Tarpeian rock (in Capitoline hill): same fate of Simon Magus and same Golgotha?

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Simon bar Giora hurled from the Tarpeian rock (in Capitoline hill): same fate of Simon Magus and same Golgotha?

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He was kept for the emperor's triumph at Rome, where he was dragged through the streets and then hurled from the Tarpeian rock (Josephus, "B. J." vii. 2, § 1; vii. 5, § 6; 8, § 1).

What surprises is not only the analogy with the form of death of Simon Magus, but also the fact that if Basilides was correct, about a Simon dying in the place of Jesus, then we would have de facto a historical fact, whatever you can think about it: Simon bar Giora was really killed in Capitoline Hill (the Tarpeian Rock is there), and not a Jesus.
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Re: Simon bar Giora hurled from the Tarpeian rock (in Capitoline hill): same fate of Simon Magus and same Golgotha?

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Golgotha as "place of beheaded people": the Rock Tarpeia in Capitoline Hill.

The skull of Adam et similia is a false track, here.
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Re: Simon bar Giora hurled from the Tarpeian rock (in Capitoline hill): same fate of Simon Magus and same Golgotha?

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It is famous the Latin quote:

Arx tarpeia Capitoli proxima
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Re: Simon bar Giora hurled from the Tarpeian rock (in Capitoline hill): same fate of Simon Magus and same Golgotha?

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The Gospel Jesus had to be crucified on the "Capitoline hill" (=Golghota) because it was paradoxically the place of his maximum triumph (= the crucifixion itself).

Anti-Vespasian propaganda is in action, here.
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Re: Simon bar Giora hurled from the Tarpeian rock (in Capitoline hill): same fate of Simon Magus and same Golgotha?

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When you use the symbols and language of your enemy, it is then that your enemy has really won.

Something of similar is happening here.
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