Adamczewski agrees with me about the Jesus's words before Pilate: TU DICES

[Giuseppe]

The surprising image of Pilate as unexpectedly asking Jesus, 'You are the king of the Jews?!' (Mk 15:2ab) and Jesus as answering, 'You say it!' (Mk 15:2c-e; diff. 14:62), illustrates the Pauline ideas that every, presumably Gentile, tongue will confess that Jesus is the lord (Philp 2:11), and that God effectuates in the Gentiles both to will and to act for his pleasure (Phlp 2:13).

(Bartosz Adamczewski, The Gospel of Mark A Hypertextual Commentary, p. 181, my bold)

and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
12 Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, 13 for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose.

(Philippians 2:11-13)


It seems that when Pilate (or the demonic Archontes in the original Jesus myth) says that Jesus is the Messiah, he is glorifying him. We would expect, as effect, a glorification. And surprise: the consequent glorification is the crucifixion.


Note how the same idea: crucifixion==glorification, i.e. who crucifies is the same person who glorifies, is found in the Gnostic Origin of the World:

'On the Origin of the World' 115,23	1 Corinthians 2:6-8	Oldest Gospel Passion Story
Then, when the seven rulers came, they saw hima and were greatly disturbed. They went up to hima and seized him.a And [the chief ruler] said to the breath within him,a "Who are you? And whence did you come hither?" Ita answered and said, "I have come from 'the force of the man' for the destruction of your work." When they heard, they glorified him.a a him = Adam, which Sophie Zoe has just breathed life into = It = not a human	We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.1a No, we declare God’s wisdom, a mystery that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began.1b None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.	So they bound Jesus, led him away and handed him over to Pilate. “Are you the king of the Jews?” asked Pilate. “You have said so,” Jesus replied. [Pilate] had Jesus flogged,b and handed him over to be crucified. b the flesh was beaten

Now there are not more doubts.


Today, 9 december 2020, is a great day.


The Philippians Hymn is the original source of the otherwise very strange sequence :

• Question: are you the Messiah?

• Answer: you say so

• Crucifixion=Glorification.

[Giuseppe]

I add this new argument against the historicity of Jesus:

• The Roman Cross was a cross of infamy and torture

• But the Cross of Jesus was a Cross of Glory

• Therefore: Jesus never existed.

That the man Jesus crucified on the cross of infamy did not exist anywhere else except in the imagination of 2nd century Christians is an evident observation. Indeed, the early Christians did not know the cross of torture on which their Christ would die; what they worshiped, what was their symbol, was the cross of victory. This indisputable fact, in its demonstrative rigor, is merciless against the historicity of the evangelical Jesus Christ.

If, therefore, this Jesus Christ did not exist as he is presented to us, the stories concerning him are false, the events they claim to report did not take place, neither in Jerusalem nor elsewhere. We can say of the Gospel: "this is not history, this is a story".

(Georges Ory)

[Giuseppe]

This proves beyond any doubt that the Earliest Gospel, the Gospel reporting the pivotal episode, the culmination of the entire Earliest Gospel:

So they bound Jesus, led him away and handed him over to Pilate.

“Are you the king of the Jews?” asked Pilate.

“You have said so,” Jesus replied.

[Pilate] had Jesus flogged, and handed him over to be crucified.

...was a Gospel intrinsically Pauline.