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Isn't he the "son of Mary", a code-word for Mandeans?
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:34 am
by Giuseppe
Mark 6:3
Isn't he the carpenter, the son of Mary?
"Mary"/Miriam designed, in the Mandean writings, the sect of John the Baptist.
So Lidzbarski,
Das Johannesbuch, p. 131-143).
So, Mark 6:3 would be saying:
Isn't he mere follower of John the Baptist?
Re: Isn't he the "son of Mary", a code-word for Mandeans?
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:48 am
by Secret Alias
The single stupidest thread you ever created at this forum. Félicitations!
Re: Isn't he the "son of Mary", a code-word for Mandeans?
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:33 am
by Giuseppe
Secret Alias wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:48 am
The single stupidest thread you ever created at this forum. Félicitations!
the idea has been advanced the first time by Lidzbarski, a past scolar of mandeism.
The Mandeans hated YHWH. Just as Marcion did. You have to concede it and give up to your fool myth of Marcionites adorers of YHWH.
Re: Isn't he the "son of Mary", a code-word for Mandeans?
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:03 pm
by Secret Alias
Whoa! Have you UNDERSTOOD what you're reading? Please cite me where it says that when Mary is mentioned in the gospel it refers to the cult of John the Baptist? Bet you no such reference exists.
Re: Isn't he the "son of Mary", a code-word for Mandeans?
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:40 pm
by Giuseppe
Secret Alias wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:03 pm
Whoa! Have you UNDERSTOOD what you're reading? Please cite me where it says that when Mary is mentioned in the gospel it refers to the cult of John the Baptist? Bet you no such reference exists.
the suggestion appears in a short note of Couchoud's book and the reference is made to Lidzbarski (Das Johannesbuch, p. 131-143) for "Miriam"==Mandean sect.
What I don't understand is your opposition
a priori to consider any possible suggestion, when it deals with Mandeans
et similia.
Re: Isn't he the "son of Mary", a code-word for Mandeans?
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:10 pm
by Giuseppe
Maria est peut-être le même nom que Miriaï, par lequel les Mandéens désignent la secte de Jean-Baptiste (Das Johannesbuch, p. 131-143).
(Paul-Louis Couchoud,
Historie de Jésus, Presses Universitaires de France, 1944, p. 210-211, note 5)
Re: Isn't he the "son of Mary", a code-word for Mandeans?
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:44 am
by Secret Alias
I've made that observation. Miriai comes from Mary. Your interpretation yout spin is completely nuts.
Re: Isn't he the "son of Mary", a code-word for Mandeans?
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:53 am
by Giuseppe
It is a fact that, at least in the Fourth Gospel, the presumed mother of Jesus is a parody of the Woman of Revelation.
So also in Mark the "Mary" could well work as a symbol of a rival sect.
Re: Isn't he the "son of Mary", a code-word for Mandeans?
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:02 am
by Secret Alias
Come on. You misquoted your source. Bye
Re: Isn't he the "son of Mary", a code-word for Mandeans?
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:10 am
by Giuseppe
So you deny that the Mandeans designed their sect as "Miriai" (="Mary"). Even when it is written so in their scriptures.