Giuseppe wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:02 am
ha ha hah, I have the Italian translation also, and I secure you that I am 100% right, here. You can even ask to your godfather Ben, he can confirm that I am correct.
The quote represents the Irenaeus's view. Hence the Gnostics believed the exact contrary:
In truth, the passion of Christ was similar to the passion of the Æon, and did take place in similar circumstances
...i.e.: in
outer space.
This is pure 100% mythicism.
https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103220.htm
. But, in truth, the passion of Christ was neither similar to the passion of the Æon, nor did it take place in similar circumstances. For the Æon underwent a passion of dissolution and destruction, so that she who suffered was in danger also of being destroyed. But the Lord, our Christ, underwent a valid, and not a merely accidental passion; not only was He Himself not in danger of being destroyed, but He also established fallen man by His own strength, and recalled him to incorruption. The Æon, again, underwent passion while she was seeking after the Father, and was not able to find Him; but the Lord suffered that He might bring those who have wandered from the Father, back to knowledge and to His fellowship. The search into the greatness of the Father became to her a passion leading to destruction; but the Lord, having suffered, and bestowing the knowledge of the Father, conferred on us salvation. Her passion, as they declare, gave origin to a female offspring, weak, infirm, unformed, and ineffective; but His passion gave rise to strength and power. For the Lord, through means of suffering, ascending into the lofty place, led captivity captive, gave gifts to men, and conferred on those that believe in Him the power to tread upon serpents and scorpions, and on all the power of the enemy, that is, of the leader of apostasy. Our Lord also by His passion destroyed death, and dispersed error, and put an end to corruption, and destroyed ignorance, while He manifested life and revealed truth, and bestowed the gift of incorruption. But their Æon, when she had suffered, established ignorance, and brought forth a substance without shape, out of which all material works have been produced — death, corruption, error, and such like.
Irenaeus says it
WAS NOT SIMILAR to the passion and
DID NOT take place in similar circumstances. He is not describing his views but those of the Gnostics.
You are confirmed now to be a liar who deliberately re-edits sources to fit your agenda. Everyone now should be sceptical of everything you say.
You are a forger.