A Proposal that the Longer Ending of Mark is Dependent on the Gospel of Luke

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Re: A Proposal that the Longer Ending of Mark is Dependent on the Gospel of Luke

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Hi Ben,
This is demonstrably illogical. If the internal evidence, to your eye, pointed in the other direction,
But the internal evidence point in the direction of the patristic conclusion being true and not the other way around.
If a suspect for a crime commuted in city X says he was far away in city Y the day of the crime, and after checking the evidence independently of what the accused declared, it is found out to be true, then the suspect is to be trusted on that matter.

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Re: A Proposal that the Longer Ending of Mark is Dependent on the Gospel of Luke

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Bernard Muller wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:03 pmBut the internal evidence point in the direction of the patristic conclusion being true and not the other way around.
If a suspect for a crime commuted in city X says he was far away in city Y the day of the crime, and after checking the evidence independently of what the accused declared, it is found out to be true, then the suspect is to be trusted on that matter.
You have no idea what my point is anymore. Even your example supports exactly what I have been saying all along about method and probability.
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JW:
"Mark's" Jesus would be sore amazed that this Thread has gone this far and no one has pointed out that all of the LE parallels to the Gospels and Acts as Dr. Carrier does in his award winning article:

Content Betrays Knowledge of the New Testament

16:9b Jesus appears (a) to Mary Magdalene (b) alone (c) on the first day of the week (John 20:1, 14-18)
16:9c from whom he had cast out seven demons (Luke 8:2)
16:10a she goes to tell the men (Luke 24:9-10; John 20:18)
16:10b as they are mourning and weeping (John 16:20; Matthew 9:15)
16:11 the men refuse to believe her (Luke 24:11)
16:12 Jesus appears (a) in a different form (b) to two of them (c) on a road (Luke 24:13–32)
16:13a those two return and tell the others (Luke 24:34-35)
16:13b who still don't believe them (fr. John 20:24-25; Luke 24:36-41)
16:14a Jesus appears (a) to the Eleven (b) indoors (c) in a context of taking food (Luke 24:33-43; and combining John 20:19-29 and 21:5-14)
16:14b and remarks on their unbelief (Luke 24:38-39; John 20:26-29)
16:15 delivers the Great Commission (Matthew 28:19; Acts 1:8; Mark 6:12; with direct verbal similarities in Mark 14:9; Matthew 24:14, 26:13)
16:16 emphasizes salvation and judgment (Acts 2:38, 16:31-33; John 3:18-21)
16:16 and the necessity of baptism (Acts 2:38-43; Matthew 28:19; John 3:5)
16:17a their powers will be a sign (Acts 2:43, 4:30, 5:12, 14:13)
16:17a casting out demons in his name (Mark 6:7, 6:13, 9:38-40; Luke 9:1, 10:17; Acts 5:16, 8:7, 16:18, 19:12-17; Matthew 7:22)
16:17b speaking with new tongues (Acts 2:4, 10:45-46, 19:6; 1 Cor. 14)
16:18a picking up serpents (Luke 10:19; Acts 28:2-6)
16:18b laying hands on the sick (Mark 5:23, 6:5; Luke 9:1-2; Acts 5:16, 6:6, 8:7, 9:17, 14:13, 19:11-12, 28:8; James 5:14-15)
16:19a Jesus ascends to heaven (Luke 24:51; John 20:17; Acts 1:2, 1:9-11)
16:19b sits down at the right hand of God (Acts 7:55-56, 5:31, 2:33; Rom. 8:34; Eph. 1:20; Heb. 1:1; Col. 3:1; Mark 12:35-37, 14:62)
16:20a the disciples go out and preach everywhere (Mark 6:12; Luke 9:6, 24:47; Acts 1:4, 1:8, 2ff.)
16:20b and Jesus confirms the word by the signs that followed (Acts 14:3; Heb. 2:2-4)

As always the overall uncertainty makes any conclusion possible but the above combined with the observation that late 2nd century was the time of orthodox harmonization makes it relatively likely that the LE was not original to GMark.

Bonus material for Solo = what late 2nd century Christian harmonization is the likely source for the LE?


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