Can Anyone Tell Me More About this Homily?

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Can Anyone Tell Me More About this Homily?

Post by Secret Alias » Tue Dec 17, 2019 8:10 pm

Does anyone know where or when this homily was composed?
What is happening? Today there is a great silence over the earth, a great silence, and stillness, a great silence because the King sleeps; the earth was in terror and was still, because God slept in the flesh and raised up those who were sleeping from the ages. God has died in the flesh, and the underworld has trembled.

Truly he goes to seek out our first parent like a lost sheep; he wishes to visit those who sit in darkness and in the shadow of death. He goes to free the prisoner Adam and his fellow-prisoner Eve from their pains, he who is God, and Adam's son.

The Lord goes in to them holding his victorious weapon, his cross. When Adam, the first created man, sees him, he strikes his breast in terror and calls out to all: 'My Lord be with you all.' And Christ in reply says to Adam: ‘And with your spirit.’ And grasping his hand he raises him up, saying: ‘Awake, O sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give you light.

‘I am your God, who for your sake became your son, who for you and your descendants now speak and command with authority those in prison: Come forth, and those in darkness: Have light, and those who sleep: Rise.

‘I command you: Awake, sleeper, I have not made you to be held a prisoner in the underworld. Arise from the dead; I am the life of the dead. Arise, O man, work of my hands, arise, you who were fashioned in my image. Rise, let us go hence; for you in me and I in you, together we are one undivided person.

‘For you, I your God became your son; for you, I the Master took on your form; that of slave; for you, I who am above the heavens came on earth and under the earth; for you, man, I became as a man without help, free among the dead; for you, who left a garden, I was handed over to Jews from a garden and crucified in a garden.

‘Look at the spittle on my face, which I received because of you, in order to restore you to that first divine inbreathing at creation. See the blows on my cheeks, which I accepted in order to refashion your distorted form to my own image.

'See the scourging of my back, which I accepted in order to disperse the load of your sins which was laid upon your back. See my hands nailed to the tree for a good purpose, for you, who stretched out your hand to the tree for an evil one.

`I slept on the cross and a sword pierced my side, for you, who slept in paradise and brought forth Eve from your side. My side healed the pain of your side; my sleep will release you from your sleep in Hades; my sword has checked the sword which was turned against you.

‘But arise, let us go hence. The enemy brought you out of the land of paradise; I will reinstate you, no longer in paradise, but on the throne of heaven. I denied you the tree of life, which was a figure, but now I myself am united to you, I who am life. I posted the cherubim to guard you as they would slaves; now I make the cherubim worship you as they would God.

"The cherubim throne has been prepared, the bearers are ready and waiting, the bridal chamber is in order, the food is provided, the everlasting houses and rooms are in readiness; the treasures of good things have been opened; the kingdom of heaven has been prepared before the ages."

A reading from an ancient homily for Holy Saturday
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote

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Re: Can Anyone Tell Me More About this Homily?

Post by andrewcriddle » Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:03 pm

Supposedly 4th century
https://hughosb.com/tag/ancient-homily- ... -saturday/

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Re: Can Anyone Tell Me More About this Homily?

Post by davidmartin » Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:38 am

there's another homily i found and lost
it was really a sermon that referenced genesis and the creation of sun and moon etc, and how the church pre-existed this
i haven't been able to find it since, supposed to be 2nd / 3rd century

but this is an interesting one i never seen before!
could it be Syrian? it feels eastern
totally lacking in Pauline concepts

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Re: Can Anyone Tell Me More About this Homily?

Post by andrewcriddle » Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:01 am

The Homily is apparently (Migne) PG 43,439-
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=fqX ... ud&f=false

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Re: Can Anyone Tell Me More About this Homily?

Post by Secret Alias » Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:39 pm

Thank you! One book I found identified it as Roman and third century.
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote

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Re: Can Anyone Tell Me More About this Homily?

Post by andrewcriddle » Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:55 am

Discussion here (In French)

May be influenced by Amphilochius of Iconium (late 4th century), and Gregory of Nazianzus (late 4th century)
Possible allusion to the Nicene creed.

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See also https://suciualin.files.wordpress.com/2 ... christ.pdf

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Re: Can Anyone Tell Me More About this Homily?

Post by Secret Alias » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:22 am

WOW! Incredible amount of information. And portions survive in Coptic! I don't think Epiphanius was the author as well. But fascinating!
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote

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