Well, returning to the topic and without more vain polemics (by now), I start with the Ode 28:
11 And they came round me like mad dogs, who ignorantly attack their masters,
Surprisingly, the Christ doesn't die
12 For their thought is corrupt and their understanding perverted.
13 But I was carrying water in my right hand, and their bitterness I endured by my sweetness;
14 And I did not perish, for I was not their brother nor was my birth like theirs.
15 And they sought for my death and did not find it: for I was older than the memorial of them;
16 And vainly did they make attack upon me and those who, without reward, came after me:
17 They sought to destroy the memorial of him who was before them.
18 For the thought of the Most High cannot be anticipated; and His heart is superior to all wisdom. Hallelujah.
. Is it really a crucifixion?
I think that a drowning
is in view, here.
There are similarities with Romans 6:3-5:
3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death (εἰς τὸν θάνατον) in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
5 For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his.
Another possible translation is the following:
3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were immersed into Christ Jesus were immersed into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through the faith in his immersion into death (εἰς τὸν θάνατον)...
The immersion εἰς τὸν θάνατον is simply... …a complete drowning
The idea is just that Christ died at the moment of the his baptism. But then it was not a "baptism" at all: it was a mythical drowning in the Abyss of death.
In the moment when the god died drowned, the his posture was crosswise:
Hence explaining this particular feature of the Odes of Solomon
Ben C. Smith wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:06 am
[*]Odes of Solomon 27.1-3; 42.1-3 and other early texts describe a worship posture, sometimes called orans
, involving the stretching out of the hands: a posture which, far from being suggested by an historical crucifixion, may perhaps have actually suggested crucifixion
With this correction: the worship posture called orans had designed from the beginning to imitate the posture of the drowned Christ during the his immersion/drowning.
it is precisely the identity of death (as immersion/drowning in the infernal waters) that gives the resurrection to both the god and the followers of the god.
This explains why the symbol of Jesus is ἰχθύς
, Joshua son of FISH (=meaning of Nun).