Marcion's Christ was not Good

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Giuseppe
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Marcion's Christ was not Good

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Searching for the references to "why do you call me good?" In Hippolytus, I find a particular insistence that Marcion didn't use Mark:

When, therefore, Marcion or some one of his hounds barks against the Demiurge, and adduces reasons from a comparison of what is good and bad, we ought to say to them, that neither Paul the apostle nor Mark, he of the maimed finger, announced such (tenets).

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/050107.htm

And still, the explicit Marcionite dogma that Jesus is not Good:

And He has, he says, been liberated from the nature of the Good One likewise, in order that He may be a Mediator, as Paul states,Galatians 3:19 and as Himself acknowledges: Why do you call me good? There is one good,

That marcionite dogma is reported also by Epiphanius:

But again, let’s devote our attention to their other arguments. For they say in turn, though they do not have a sound understanding of the text, that the Savior himself said, “Why callest thou me good? There is one good, God,” 242 and thereby separated himself from the essence and subsistence of the Father.

https://archive.org/stream/EpiphaniusPa ... 1_djvu.txt
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
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"...been liberated from the nature of the Good One likewise" seems to be a good reason to accept the euhemerization a god, a kind of euphemism for it. Isn't it?
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Re: Marcion's Christ was not Good

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It was on account of this all-pervading view of the high and matchless character of Christ, that Marcion said in his later school-phraseology, as is stated in the fragment preserved by Hippolytus, that Christ was "the middle between the Good and the Evil." He is apart from the Evil, which is the Demiurge, the tyrant of the souls of men, but also apart from the Good, "because there is only One good, that is God" as Jesus himself said.
https://archive.org/stream/christianity ... s_djvu.txt

Original fragment in greek here:

https://archive.org/details/christianit ... s/page/98/
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