The Ascension to celestial Jerusalem is euhemerized as ascent to Jerusalem of Judea

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The Ascension to celestial Jerusalem is euhemerized as ascent to Jerusalem of Judea

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In the original myth Jesus descends to the gates of Sheol in the end of the age. He is crucified by demons and he goes to reveal the Gnosis to the imprisoned souls of Sheol. Hence he ascends to celestial Jerusalem with the souls of some "disciples" (souls freed from the Sheol).

This ascension to celestial Jerusalem was considered wrongly (or deliberately?) as a real visit to the earthly Jerusalem of Judea, with real "historical" disciples.

Hence the legend was born about a Jesus having some disciples and with them going up to Jerusalem "for the feast" (really: the celestial banquet). The rest is not history but a story: ...the Earliest Gospel.

Given the great importance assumed in this unconscious process of euhemerizazion by the descending to Sheol (at the origin of the misunderstanding of a celestial myth for a historical earthly event), how could the Sheol be euhemerized in the Legend?
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It is relatively easy to know how the Sheol was euhemerized in the Earliest Gospel. Remember: in the original myth Jesus reveals himself, after the celestial crucifixion (happened before the gates of Sheol), to the souls of the Sheol itself. Hence it was natural that he had to have the his first "disciples" among the imprisoned souls of Sheol (and not on the earth).

Alas:

Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. 15 “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!”

16 As Jesus walked beside the Sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and his brother Andrew casting a net into the lake, for they were fishermen. 17 “Come, follow me,” Jesus said, “and I will send you out to fish for people.” 18 At once they left their nets and followed him.

While the preaching of the "kingdom of god" may be a judaizing interpolation (insofar the supreme god is considered to be YHWH) a more impartial incipit is just that verse:
As Jesus walked beside the Sea of Galilee...

The "Sea of Galilee" is an evocation of Netherworld. The souls freed by Jesus will become themselves saviours of other souls in the same "sea": to mean that Jesus won the his original "disciples" not on earth but in Sheol, where he went after the his celestial crucifixion.

Now it becomes more evident the crucial turning point that marked the fatidic passage from myth to "history": an ascension to a celestial Jerusalem confused with a mere ascent to Jerusalem city of Judea.
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Evidence in Ascension of Isaiah that the crucifixion happened at the gates of Sheol:

"Go forth and descent through all the heavens, and thou wilt descent to the firmament and that world: to the angel in Sheol thou wilt descend, but to Haguel thou wilt not go.

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/t ... nsion.html

Jesus had to die before to enter in the Sheol and reveal himself to the souls who are imprisoned there. He can't enter in Sheol without being crucified before.


Hence Jesus was euhemerized in virtue of a fatal misunderstanding: the his ascension from Sheol to the celestial Jerusalem was confused accidentally for a real historical ascent to earthly Jerusalem.
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Further evidence of the fact that the original preaching of Jesus happened, according to the original myth, in the Sheol after the his crucifixion (happened at the gates of Sheol):

For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to human standards in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit.

(1 Peter 4:6)


The only way the gospel “was preached to those who are now dead” is by Jesus himself, while only now the gospel is preached, on the earth, by the living apostles like Peter and Paul.

Therefore, it is equivalent if Peter had written:
For this is the reason the gospel was preached [by Jesus] even to those who are now in the Sheol, so that they might be judged according to human standards in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit.


Still the Ascension of Isaiah 9:13-17:
13. Nevertheless they see and know whose will be thrones, and whose the crowns when He has descended and been made in your form, and they will think that He is flesh and is a man.
14. And the god of that world will stretch forth his hand against the Son, and they will crucify Him on a tree, and will slay Him not knowing who He is.
15. And thus His descent, as you will see, will be hidden even from the heavens, so that it will not be known who He is.
16. And when He hath plundered the angel of death, He will ascend on the third day, [and he will remain in that world five hundred and forty-five days].
17. And then many of the righteous will ascend with Him, whose spirits do not receive their garments till the Lord Christ ascend and they ascend with Him.

The “righteous” who “will ascend with Him” are the souls of the righteous people who are imprisoned in the Sheol. This is the reason they are without garments, not even one of earthly flesh and blood: the souls imprisoned in the Sheol are already without a body.
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The Original Myth of JesusThe euhemerization of the myth
Jesus descends to gates of SheolJesus went to Jordan
Jesus is crucified before the gates of SheolJesus is baptized by John the Baptist
Jesus dies and goes to SheolJesus goes to wilderness
Jesus reveals the gnosis to the souls found in the SheolJesus preaches the Kingdom of God along the "Sea" of Galilee
Jesus ascends to celestial Jerusalem with the souls of righteous people from the SheolJesus ascends to earthly Jerusalem with the his disciples
????Jesus is crucified by Pilate.

Once the error was made about the ascension to celestial Jerusalem confused for an ascent to the earthly Jerusalem, Jesus couldn't be crucified two times. Hence the baptism of Jesus by John the Baptist was introduced to simulate the “real” first crucifixion of Jesus happened before the gates of Sheol (as per Ascension of Isaiah).
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Further evidence:

Ephesians 4:9
(What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions ?

In The Epistle of 12 Apostles, Jesus preaches the his “Sayings of the Lord” (does someone have a better term in this forum?) after the resurrection and not before:

But it came to pass after he was crucified, and dead and arisen again, when the work was fulfilled which was accomplished in the flesh, and he was crucified and the ascension come to pass at the end of the days, then said he thus, But the whole fulfilment of the fulfilment shall ye see after the redemption which hath come to pass by me, and ye shall see me, how I go up unto my Father which is in heaven. But behold, now, I give unto you a new commandment: Love one another and [a leaf lost in Copt.] obey one another, that peace may rule alway among you. Love your enemies, and what ye would not that man do unto you, that do unto no man.

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/t ... lorum.html

This betrayes the original myth, where Jesus preaches in the Sheol a gnosis addressed to the souls found in the Sheol, after the celestial crucifixion happened before the gates of the Sheol.
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The judaizer "Matthew" is the principal victim of this confusion between a mythical ascension and an earthly ascent.

They came out of the tombs after Jesus' resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many people.

(Matthew 27:53)

In the original myth, Jesus ascends with the souls of the righteous people from the Sheol, destination: the celestial Jerusalem. But “Matthew” (editor) is so idiot that he makes the same souls ascend to the mere earthly Jerusalem. The his operation is partially deliberate, since he, against Ascension of Isaiah, makes the ascending souls in possession of a body.

100% expected by a Judaizer.
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The same fact that the Risen Christ appears in Galilee and not in Jerusalem, when logically the his ghost should appear in Jerusalem if he was crucified there in the real History, reveals that the gnosis was given by Jesus, in the original myth, after the his crucifixion and to the souls of the Sheol. Not before. Hence the “Galilee” allegorizes the Sheol (see the table above).
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Another evidence:

Matthew 27:61, 64, 66:
Mary Magdalene and the other Mary were sitting there opposite the tomb (τάφου).
...
64 So give the order for the tomb (τάφον) to be made secure until the third day. Otherwise, his disciples may come and steal the body and tell the people that he has been raised from the dead. This last deception will be worse than the first.”
65 “Take a guard,” Pilate answered. “Go, make the tomb as secure as you know how.” 66 So they went and made the tomb (τάφον) secure by putting a seal on the stone and posting the guard.

τάφος is a common pit. A perfect image for the Sheol (meaning itself "pit"). It is the place where a lot of people go, not only Jesus. Absolute indistinctness rules there.


But then, surprisingly, Matthew talks about a

and placed it in his own new tomb (μνημείῳ) that he had cut out of the rock. He rolled a big stone in front of the entrance to the tomb (μνημείου) and went away.

(27:60)

μνημείον is the tomb designed to remember the particular dead buried there.

Hence the first meaning is older than the second, since it is more embarrassing (the fact that Jesus is buried in a common pit as opposed to a tomb of a rich). Afterall, I have already realized for other reasons that Joseph from Arimathea is a judaizing interpolation by Mark on the original gospel (Cdn).

This means that Jesus, after the crucifixion, goes to Sheol, the mythical pit of which the mere τάφος is the his Gospel allegory.


ça va sans dire: Golgotha, as "Place of Skulls", works already per se as a reference to the Sheol (nota bene: in the original myth, Jesus was crucified before the gates of Sheol, not inside it).
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Now it is time to complete the table in the missing space:
Giuseppe wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:06 am
The Original Myth of JesusThe euhemerization of the myth
Jesus descends to gates of SheolJesus went to Jordan
Jesus is crucified before the gates of SheolJesus is baptized by John the Baptist
Jesus dies and goes to SheolJesus goes to wilderness
Jesus reveals the gnosis to the souls found in the SheolJesus preaches the Kingdom of God along the "Sea" of Galilee
Jesus ascends to celestial Jerusalem with the souls of righteous people from the SheolJesus ascends to earthly Jerusalem with the his disciples
????Jesus is crucified by Pilate.

Remember that in CdN (the Gospel of Cerdon, aka the Earliest Gospel), Jesus disappears from the cross. This is itself an euhemerization of an older myth, always related to the original myth described in this thread: when Jesus descends with the good souls to the celestial Jerusalem from the Sheol, he has to escape the guard of the archons, put in the border areas between the Sheol and the other heavens. The archons who are not able to stop Jesus in the his ascension to celestial Jerusalem are allegorized by the Romans and by Pilate. For irony of the fate, Pilate allegorizes who couldn't stop Jesus, and not who could kill Jesus!!!



The only possible solution:

The Original Myth of JesusThe euhemerization of the myth
Jesus descends to gates of SheolJesus went to Jordan
Jesus is crucified before the gates of SheolJesus is baptized by John the Baptist
Jesus dies and goes to SheolJesus goes to wilderness
Jesus reveals the gnosis to the souls found in the SheolJesus preaches the Kingdom of God along the "Sea" of Galilee
Jesus ascends to celestial Jerusalem with the souls of righteous people from the SheolJesus ascends to earthly Jerusalem with the his disciples
To ascend to celestial Jerusalem, Jesus has to escape magically the guard of the archons, during the exit from SheolJesus is going to be crucified by Pilate, but he disappears magically from the cross (Cdn).

Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
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