Why Pilate? Because of Revelation 12:11

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Why Pilate? Because of Revelation 12:11

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Can Pilate be read in Revelation? What derives the my attention is that just in the only passage in Revelation where the Lamb is not identified stricto sensu with the Christ, "Satan" is defeated by the "blood of the Lamb":

Revelation 12:
Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say:

“Now have come the salvation and the power
and the kingdom of our God,
and the authority of his Messiah.
For the accuser of our brothers and sisters,
who accuses them before our God day and night,
has been hurled down.
11 They triumphed over him
by the blood of the Lamb
and by the word of their testimony
;
they did not love their lives so much
as to shrink from death.
12 Therefore rejoice, you heavens
and you who dwell in them!
But woe to the earth and the sea,
because the devil has gone down to you!
He is filled with fury,
because he knows that his time is short.”

Also Pilate was defeated politically after that the his crimes of war became of public domain:

But when this tumult was appeased, the Samaritan senate sent an embassy to Vitellius, a man that had been consul, and who was now president of Syria, and accused Pilate of the murder of those that were killed; for that they did not go to Tirathaba in order to revolt from the Romans, but to escape the violence of Pilate. 89So Vitellius sent Marcellus, a friend of his, to take care of the affairs of Judea, and ordered Pilate to go to Rome, to answer before the emperor to the accusations of the Jews. So Pilate, when he had tarried ten years in Judea, made haste to Rome, and this in obedience to the orders of Vitellius, which he durst not contradict; but before he could get to Rome Tiberius was dead.

https://lexundria.com/j_aj/18.85-18.108/wst

Paraphrasing Rev 12:11, in the real history, that was the only moment in all their history when the Jews triumphed over a Roman governor "by the blood" of the his victims and "by the word of their testimony".

Hence Pilate could work as the best earthly allegory of a "Satan" who witnessed the birth of the Son of a celestial Woman.

Pilate is the perfect example of a ruler who is defeated in virtue of the his same hateful crimes. Not by the active resistance against him. But by passive resistance. The resistance that is typical of a Lamb.
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
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Re: Why Pilate? Because of Revelation 12:11

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Three is a lot going on in chapter 12 and this passage and this is only a small snippet. Apologies if it does not make sense in its brevity.

Attached is the second draft of Revelation in which you can see the sources for much of chapter 11 and 12.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WdIg_O ... sp=sharing

Note the parallel formation (see The Zechariah-Encoded Parallel on page 117) and that will show you how Satan got into the book of Revelation. It also shows that the two prophets in chapter 11 as well as the child in chapter 12 are synonyms of Jesus. The two prophets die, raised and three days later go into heaven (11:12-13). You can see that in Revelation because of the same verbiage between the two prophets and the child:
11:15 The seventh angel sounded, and great voices in heaven followed, saying,
“The kingdom of the world has become the Kingdom of our Lord,
and of his Christ.
12:10 I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying,
“Now the salvation, the power,
and the Kingdom of our God,
and the authority of his Christ has come;

The Lamb came into Revelation in the third draft (Deuteronomy-Joshua (DJD)) draft in which John used the synonym Lamb every time he referred to Joshua. As you know Joshua and Jesus are the same in Greek and Hebrew. Attached is how the book of Revelation was written from the first draft to the last. The illustration of the DJD will show how John added the content into the third draft (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QLNLgG ... sp=sharing see page 9)

There are lots of internal parallels going on in the development. The Woman and the Harlot are a simple parallel in which we get the blood and a few other things. If you are interested in that, I can put something together on that.That is one aspect of where the Blood comes into play.

12:1 A great sign was seen in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. 12:2 She was with child. She cried out in pain, laboring to give birth. 12:3 Another sign was seen in heaven. Behold, a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads seven crowns. 12:4 His tail drew one third of the stars of the sky, and threw them to the earth. The dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she gave birth he might devour her child. 12:5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron. Her child was caught up to God, and to his throne. 12:6 The woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that there they may nourish her one thousand two hundred sixty days.

12:10 I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying,
“Now the salvation, the power,
and the Kingdom of our God,
and the authority of his Christ has come;
for the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down,
who accuses them before our God day and night.
12:11 They overcame him because of the Lamb’s blood,
and because of the word of their testimony.
They didn’t love their life,
even to death.
12:12 Therefore rejoice, heavens,
and you who dwell in them.
Woe to the earth and to the sea,
because the devil has gone down to you,
having great wrath,
knowing that he has but a short time.”
17:3 He carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness. I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet-colored animal, full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and ten horns. 17:4 The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the impurities of the sexual immorality of the earth. 17:5 And on her forehead a name was written,
“MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT,
THE MOTHER OF THE PROSTITUTES
AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.”
17:6 I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus.

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