Why Jesus rises in Galilee in separationist proto-Mark

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Giuseppe
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Why Jesus rises in Galilee in separationist proto-Mark

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In my view, it is a fact that Cerinthus was the author of proto-Mark.


35 While Jesus was teaching in the temple courts, he asked, “Why do the teachers of the law say that the Messiah is the son of David? 36 David himself, speaking by the Holy Spirit, declared:
“‘The Lord said to my Lord:
“Sit at my right hand
until I put your enemies
under your feet.”’ 37 David himself calls him ‘Lord.’ How then can he be his son?”
The large crowd listened to him with delight.

(Mark 12)


In proto-Mark, Jesus is a pious Jew who adores the demiurge, but he denies the demiurge for all the time of the his temporary possession by the spiritual Christ of the supreme god (not the demiurge). He denies even the final truth about himself: that he is the davidic Messiah. As possessed by the spiritual Christ of a higher god, the davidic (=demiurgical) Messiah Jesus denies that the Christ possessing him is davidic, since it is a pure spirit and can't descend from flesh and blood (not even davidic).


The sense is: just as David himself, insofar he was possessed by the Creator's spirit, recognized the superiority of the Demiurge's Messiah (contra factum that he will be a his biological descendant), so the Davidic Messiah Jesus, insofar he was possessed by the spirit of a higher god, recognizes the superiority of the Christ of an alien god (not the god of the Jews), contra factum that that spirit possessor is the Christ of another god.


The OT prophecies preserve their validity, but about the man Jesus, aka the Davidic Messiah. If he rises in Galilee, it is why he is the Warrior Messiah predicted by the Jewish scriptures, who will start the his conquest of the earthly world starting from the Galilee (where all the messianists appeared). A Jewish Messiah who will rule for 1000 years. On the earth. While the true Christians will ascend in heaven.
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
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Re: Why Jesus rises in Galilee in separationist proto-Mark

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The dualism between the two Messiahs (one from the Good God and the other from the demiurge) is fully in action insofar the davidic Messiah suffers on the cross while the spiritual Christ remains impassible in heaven.

The rending of the veil in the temple allegorizes the wrath of the demiurge, against not the impassible Christ of an alien god (he is still unaware of the his existence). But against the his same people, the Jews, since they had just killed the his davidic Messiah.

Hence the strategy of the alien Christ was to put the Demiurge against the his own people and vice versa.

Divide et impera.
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
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Re: Why Jesus rises in Galilee in separationist proto-Mark

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Now the question that has to be faced is the following: what caused this dualism between Jesus and Christ ?


It came from the collision between early Christian Gnostics and the followers of the author of the book of Revelation.


The book of Revelation assumes that Jesus was the Jewish Messiah, the Servant Suffering of Isaiah and the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. His first coming of the earth is expected. Hence there is already the set of ingredients used later by Cerinthus/("Mark") to invent the his narrative.


Just as Revelation 3:9 attacks:
...the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie

...so Cerinthus invented a Jesus possessed by Christ who appeares as the Jewish Christ, but he is not and he lies.


Hence proto-Mark was a parody of the book of Revelation. In that parody there is the origin of the separationist Christology.
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
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