No “Son of Man” in Marcion
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:03 am
So Tertullian:
http://gnosis.org/library/marcion/Tert12.html#AM415
If the silence of Jesus, for Marcion, had to serve to lead Jesus on the cross, then why, shortly after, Jesus himself would have revealed his identity in a so evident way?
http://gnosis.org/library/marcion/Gospel6.html#Tortured
In addition, Luke talks about the Son of Man being only seated with God, while Mark talks also about the descending of the Son of Man with God. In both the cases, both Luke and Mark insist on the fact that who is with God is the same danielic Son of Man and not the Christ.
This is a strong clue of the fact that in Marcion we had the exact contrary: Jesus proclaimed the ascending of the spiritual Christ to his true Father (a miracle that happened in that precise moment, under the eyes of the sinedrites), while leaving the man Jesus before the sinedrites.
Hence any mention of the Son of Man is probably absent in Mcn.
The danielic Son of Man was introduced in the Gospels to insist, against Marcion, on the divine nature of the man Jesus, in opposition to the only divine nature of the spiritual Christ.
(Even a blind realizes that a Son of Man, even if he is God himself, is at any case a human being: the exact thing denied by Marcion for the his Christ).
When led before the council, He is asked whether He is the Christ.(12) Of what Christ could the Jews have inquired(13) but their own? Why, therefore, did He not, even at that moment, declare to them the rival (Christ)? You reply, In order that He might be able to suffer. In other words, that this most excellent god might plunge men into crime, whom he was still keeping in ignorance. But even if he had told them, he would yet have to suffer. For he said, "If I tell you, ye will not believe."(14)
http://gnosis.org/library/marcion/Tert12.html#AM415
If the silence of Jesus, for Marcion, had to serve to lead Jesus on the cross, then why, shortly after, Jesus himself would have revealed his identity in a so evident way?
69 From henceforth shall the Son of man be seated
on the right hand of the power of God.
70 And they all said, Art thou then the Son of God?
And he said unto them,
Ye say it, because I am.
on the right hand of the power of God.
70 And they all said, Art thou then the Son of God?
And he said unto them,
Ye say it, because I am.
http://gnosis.org/library/marcion/Gospel6.html#Tortured
In addition, Luke talks about the Son of Man being only seated with God, while Mark talks also about the descending of the Son of Man with God. In both the cases, both Luke and Mark insist on the fact that who is with God is the same danielic Son of Man and not the Christ.
This is a strong clue of the fact that in Marcion we had the exact contrary: Jesus proclaimed the ascending of the spiritual Christ to his true Father (a miracle that happened in that precise moment, under the eyes of the sinedrites), while leaving the man Jesus before the sinedrites.
in Marcion | in Luke and in Mark |
the Son of Father | the Son of Man |
ascends to God | descends or is with God |
Hence any mention of the Son of Man is probably absent in Mcn.
The danielic Son of Man was introduced in the Gospels to insist, against Marcion, on the divine nature of the man Jesus, in opposition to the only divine nature of the spiritual Christ.
(Even a blind realizes that a Son of Man, even if he is God himself, is at any case a human being: the exact thing denied by Marcion for the his Christ).