Ebion - "Ebion is said to have been a pupil of Cerinthus, but may not have been a real person." https://books.google.com/books?id=STxEA ... AQ6AEIKTAA
Cerdo - "... if Cerdo was a historical person, and not (as seems likely) a heresiological creation ..." https://books.google.com/books?id=dpd7A ... oQ6AEIRTAF
Bucolus (of the epistles of Ignatius) " .. if Bucolus is a historical person ..." https://books.google.com/books?id=9ulla ... kQ6AEILzAB
Who Do Scholars Say is a Fake Person in Christian Antiquity?
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Who Do Scholars Say is a Fake Person in Christian Antiquity?
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
Re: Who Do Scholars Say is a Fake Person in Christian Antiquity?
That whole chapter is interesting and enlightening. As is probably the whole book -Secret Alias wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:37 pm
Cerdo - "... if Cerdo was a historical person, and not (as seems likely) a heresiological creation ..." https://books.google.com/books?id=dpd7A ... oQ6AEIRTAF
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This book examines the role of social networks in the formation of identity among sophists, philosophers and Christians in the early Roman Empire. Membership in each category was established and evaluated socially as well as discursively. From clashes over admission to classrooms and communion to construction of the group's history, integration into the social fabric of the community served as both an index of identity and a medium through which contests over status and authority were conducted. The juxtaposition of patterns of belonging in Second Sophistic and early Christian circles reveals a shared repertoire of technologies of self-definition, authorization and institutionalization and shows how each group manipulated and adapted those strategies to its own needs. This approach provides a more rounded view of the Second Sophistic and places the early Christian formation of 'orthodoxy' in a fresh context.
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This book examines the role of social networks in the formation of identity among sophists, philosophers and Christians in the early Roman Empire. Membership in each category was established and evaluated socially as well as discursively. From clashes over admission to classrooms and communion to construction of the group's history, integration into the social fabric of the community served as both an index of identity and a medium through which contests over status and authority were conducted. The juxtaposition of patterns of belonging in Second Sophistic and early Christian circles reveals a shared repertoire of technologies of self-definition, authorization and institutionalization and shows how each group manipulated and adapted those strategies to its own needs. This approach provides a more rounded view of the Second Sophistic and places the early Christian formation of 'orthodoxy' in a fresh context.
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The Social World of Intellectuals in the Roman Empire: Sophists, Philosophers, and Christians
Kendra Eshleman
Cambridge University Press, Nov. 2012
Re: Who Do Scholars Say is a Fake Person in Christian Antiquity?
Christian scholars have no problem admitting that people in the Old Testament (Job, Daniel, Judith, Esther, Tobit, etc) were fictional, i.e. "fake."
But everybody in the New Testament is real. Don't question them.
In marketing this process is known as "protecting the brand."
But everybody in the New Testament is real. Don't question them.
In marketing this process is known as "protecting the brand."
“The only sensible response to fragmented, slowly but randomly accruing evidence is radical open-mindedness. A single, simple explanation for a historical event is generally a failure of imagination, not a triumph of induction.” William H.C. Propp
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Re: Who Do Scholars Say is a Fake Person in Christian Antiquity?
Bucolus is not mentioned by Ignatius. The source is (pseudo) Pionius Life of PolycarpSecret Alias wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:37 pm
Bucolus (of the epistles of Ignatius) " .. if Bucolus is a historical person ..." https://books.google.com/books?id=9ulla ... kQ6AEILzAB
http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/pioni ... _intro.htm
http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/pioni ... 1_text.htm
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Re: Who Do Scholars Say is a Fake Person in Christian Antiquity?
'Ebion' might be a traditional deviation of r. Akiva, who held the office as overseer of the poor.
Cerdo/Cerinthus, for a long time, I have seen as the 'Cephas' figure in Galatians. I have a suspicion that this was Agathobulus, but so far the evidence I have gathered is wanting at best.
Cerdo/Cerinthus, for a long time, I have seen as the 'Cephas' figure in Galatians. I have a suspicion that this was Agathobulus, but so far the evidence I have gathered is wanting at best.