andrewcriddle wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:39 amI don't think that the interrogation of Jesus is represented as taking place in the temple, if that is what you are suggesting. But I may be misunderstanding you.
1. Thank you for replying.
2. I am not implying that "The Interrogation of Jesus" takes place in the Temple. I am looking at possible Constructions of the Peter Denial Story that finds a "Peter" at the Gate to the Chamber of the Flames. I am looking at a Source Fragment that was woven into the Interrogation Motif
3. As above, Peter
sits while he warms himself as found in the Synoptics. He is
standing in John. This is reflective of a Real Place. Outside of the door that leads to the Chamber of the Flames, known as the Chamber of the Hearth, people may sit, sleep and do other things as they need. Inside the door, at the Chamber of the Flames, the people must
stand. It is sacred.
4. The scene plays out with Peter getting into the Chamber of the Flames. In Luke, "Jesus" Looks at Peter when Peter denies him:
Luke 22: 54 - 61 (RSV):
[54] Then they seized him and led him away,
bringing him into the high priest's house. Peter followed at a distance;
[55] and when
they had kindled a fire in the middle of the courtyard and sat down together, Peter sat among them.
[56] Then a maid, seeing him as he sat in the light and gazing at him, said, "This man also was with him."
[57] But he denied it, saying, "Woman, I do not know him."
[58] And a little later some one else saw him and said, "You also are one of them." But Peter said, "Man, I am not."
[59] And after an interval of about an hour still another insisted, saying, "Certainly this man also was with him; for he is a Galilean."
[60] But Peter said, "Man, I do not know what you are saying." And immediately, while he was still speaking, the cock crowed.
[61]
And the Lord turned and looked at Peter
I suppose one could assert that the High Priest had a heater in the front yard but there are other clues that may lead one (i.e., me) to conclude that the Priestly orientation of the Original has been intentionally hidden:
John 18:
[15]
Simon Peter followed Jesus, and so did another disciple. As this disciple was known to the high priest, he entered the court of the high priest along with Jesus,
[16] while
Peter stood outside at the door. So the other disciple, who was known to the high priest, went out and spoke to the maid who kept the door, and brought Peter in.
[17] The maid who kept the door said to Peter, "Are not you also one of this man's disciples?" He said, "I am not."
[18] Now the servants and officers had made a charcoal fire, because it was cold, and
they were standing and warming themselves; Peter also was with them, standing and warming himself.
Mark and John do have a
dependence but the dependence is from the Compositions coming from a common Source. It would be contradictory to have Peter maneuvering between the two Chambers and have "Jesus" looking at Peter from the "High Priest's House" when he is denied. The contradiction is resolved if the Scene is written from a Peter Story that has been transformed into a story of a savior/god who goes to his human sacrificial death while his most trusted disciples betray him.
"Jesus" was NOT interrogated in the Temple. There are, however, too many details in the new story to cover without leaving contradictions. The Original had Peter moving between the Chamber of Flames and the Chamber of the Hearth. It has been spliced together with the "Jesus Interrogation" and the result has contradictions. Again, from the fact that the "Jesus" stories were written from Source, it does not follow that the Source Stories were about "Jesus".
If this is still opaque, tell me where you're questions are and I'll try again.
Best,
CW