Times of Israel Article on 70 AD & Josephus
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Charles Wilson
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Thanks for posting that.
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Yer welcome, o-h.
Lotsa' times it's what's in the ground rather than what's above the clouds that matter.
There oughta' be more than a few Boneyards in the area, with charred remains and identifying bits still left. An array of sensitive mics set up properly might image the debris...
Mark 9: 43 - 48 (RSV):
[43] And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire.
[45] And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life lame than with two feet to be thrown into hell.
[47] And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out; it is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into hell,
[48] where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.
Lotsa' times it's what's in the ground rather than what's above the clouds that matter.
There oughta' be more than a few Boneyards in the area, with charred remains and identifying bits still left. An array of sensitive mics set up properly might image the debris...
Mark 9: 43 - 48 (RSV):
[43] And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire.
[45] And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life lame than with two feet to be thrown into hell.
[47] And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out; it is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into hell,
[48] where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.
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Charles Wilson
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Lest we forget:
War..., 5, 13, 7:
"And, indeed, why do I relate these particular calamities? while Manneus, the son of Lazarus, came running to Titus at this very time, and told him that there had been carried out through that one gate, which was intrusted to his care, no fewer than a hundred and fifteen thousand eight hundred and eighty dead bodies, in the interval between the fourteenth day of the month Xanthieus, [Nisan,] when the Romans pitched their camp by the city, and the first day of the month Panemus [Tamuz]. This was itself a prodigious multitude; and though this man was not himself set as a governor at that gate, yet was he appointed to pay the public stipend for carrying these bodies out, and so was obliged of necessity to number them, while the rest were buried by their relations; though all their burial was but this, to bring them away, and cast them out of the city. After this man there ran away to Titus many of the eminent citizens, and told him the entire number of the poor that were dead, and that no fewer than six hundred thousand were thrown out at the gates, though still the number of the rest could not be discovered; and they told him further, that when they were no longer able to carry out the dead bodies of the poor, they laid their corpses on heaps in very large houses, and shut them up therein..."
War..., 5, 13, 7:
"And, indeed, why do I relate these particular calamities? while Manneus, the son of Lazarus, came running to Titus at this very time, and told him that there had been carried out through that one gate, which was intrusted to his care, no fewer than a hundred and fifteen thousand eight hundred and eighty dead bodies, in the interval between the fourteenth day of the month Xanthieus, [Nisan,] when the Romans pitched their camp by the city, and the first day of the month Panemus [Tamuz]. This was itself a prodigious multitude; and though this man was not himself set as a governor at that gate, yet was he appointed to pay the public stipend for carrying these bodies out, and so was obliged of necessity to number them, while the rest were buried by their relations; though all their burial was but this, to bring them away, and cast them out of the city. After this man there ran away to Titus many of the eminent citizens, and told him the entire number of the poor that were dead, and that no fewer than six hundred thousand were thrown out at the gates, though still the number of the rest could not be discovered; and they told him further, that when they were no longer able to carry out the dead bodies of the poor, they laid their corpses on heaps in very large houses, and shut them up therein..."
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"...they laid their corpses on heaps..."
This may be a possible Semiticism, if only seen through English understanding of something written in Greek which may have been filtered through Latin thinking Scribes.
In ancient Sumer, in the war between the City-States of Ebla and Mari, the Stylized Reports of the Generals to the Rulers contained a frequently used sentence: "We raised heaps of corpses" - or "Piles of Corpses" if you prefer (Pettinato, Ebla).
This may be a possible Semiticism, if only seen through English understanding of something written in Greek which may have been filtered through Latin thinking Scribes.
In ancient Sumer, in the war between the City-States of Ebla and Mari, the Stylized Reports of the Generals to the Rulers contained a frequently used sentence: "We raised heaps of corpses" - or "Piles of Corpses" if you prefer (Pettinato, Ebla).