davidbrainerd wrote:In addition to that, it would be a little odd that there was no heresy of Jesus crucified in heaven ever attacked by the church fathers (unless I just missed it).outhouse wrote:
My take no matter how poor or credible, stands. The Pauline authors went out of their way to "over sell" the theology and Pauline authority, but they did not "over sell" a celestial only Jesus. They factually sold a Jesus that died, and now is in Heaven. And nothing exist that shows a heavenly crucifixion in any way, its not what they sold and it goes against the prose they used to write the text. Had they wanted you to think this, they would have been very clear.
Definitely. No one ever attacked the celestial Jesus because that was not the context Paul was selling.
Paul sold a dead guy who was in heaven who was resurrected to clean up human sin, IMHO