Proofs That Jesus Existed

[TedM]

I believe
Therefo

[JoeWallack]

ARGUMENT FROM ANCIENT STANDARDS
(1) Modern standards of proof generally require multiple, confirming, independent, credible first-hand witnesses.
(2) We don't have that for HJ.
(3) Ancient standards of proof accepted a lower standard.
(4) We should use a lower standard of proof for HJ because HJ was ancient.
(5) Therefore, Jesus existed

[TedM]

ARGUMENT FROM INSENSITIVITY
(1) Hey Jerk, you don't know Jack.
(2) Therefore, Jesus existed

[JoeWallack]

ARGUMENT FROM INCOMPLETE ARGUMENT
(1) Modern standards of proof generally require multiple, confirming, independent, credible first-hand witnesses.
(2) We don't have that for HJ.
(3) Ancient standards of proof accepted a lower standard.
(4) We should use a lower standard of proof for HJ because HJ was ancient.
(5) But we use modern standards for every discipline except apparently religious history.
(6) True, but because, because,..let me get back to you on that.
(7) Therefore, Jesus existed

[JoeWallack]

ARGUMENT FROM MISUSE OF "ANACRONISTIC"
(1) Modern standards of proof generally require multiple, confirming, independent, credible first-hand witnesses.
(2) We don't have that for HJ.
(3) Ancient standards of proof accepted a lower standard.
(4) We should use a lower standard of proof for HJ because HJ was ancient.
(5) But we use modern standards for every discipline except apparently religious history.
(6) True, but using modern standards of proof to determine an ancient's existence is anachronistic.
(7) Therefore, Jesus existed

[JoeWallack]

ARGUMENT FROM RICK PERRY
(1) I have three independent Gospel agencies that are evidence for Jesus' baptism.
(2) The first is "Mark".
(3) The second is "John" who is independent from "Mark" because no one knows who "Mark" was.
(4) The third is independent from "John" because no one knows who "John" was.
(5) The third one is, uhm, lessee...the Department of Energy? No, that's not it.
(6) Zzz...(wake up Rick), huh, oh yeah, let's see, ahhh...(shrug and lift hands) oops.
(7) Therefore, Jesus existed

[spin]

1. Hollywood has made many films about Jesus.
2. Many clearly indicate that their film was "based on actual events".
3. These films about Jesus were based on actual events!
4. Therefore, Jesus existed.

[Tenorikuma]

1. Listening to what atheists say about the Gospels is like learning to cook pork chops from a Rabbi. It's simply absurd.
2. Therefore, only religious scholars have sensible things to say about Jesus.
3. Nearly all religious scholars think Jesus existed.
4. Therefore, Jesus existed.

[Kunigunde Kreuzerin]

Argument from cosmic noise
1. There is a cosmic microwave background.
2. Modern cosmologists, probably atheists, consider the Big Bang model of the universe to be the best explanation for the CMB.
3. But no one is able to understand this theory. Furthermore the books which established this theory are very late sources.
4. The gospels consider the Jesus model to be the best explanation for the CMB. The gospels said a) that all things were made by a word, later called Jesus and b) Jesus' words shall not pass away.
5. Everyone is able to understand this theory. Furthermore the gospels are very early sources.
6. Therefore, Jesus existed.

[pakeha]

As a newbie here, I'm reading through this thread and so far this is my favourite entry:

ARGUMENT FROM ROBERT M. PRICE
(1) Robert M. Price says Jesus didn't exist
(2) Ehrman says Price is just a "bitter ex-fundamentalist," unlike himself
(3) Therefore, Jesus existed.