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stephan happy huller wrote:I swear I've been to this bar before ...
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I'm trying to recreate some of the same community that we had over at the other place... this starts with trying to pick up some of the threads in progress. 8-)
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Post by stephan happy huller » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:31 pm

now that I talk to you I always meant to tell you you should put this up at your other site


http://www.ccg.org/english/s/b3.html
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Post by Peter Kirby » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:47 pm

stephan happy huller wrote:now that I talk to you I always meant to tell you you should put this up at your other site


http://www.ccg.org/english/s/b3.html
Hey, that's great, thank you. :)

I've added it to my Clement of Alexandria page.
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Re: Were the Gospels Influential on Irenaeus's Martyrdom of

Post by Peter Kirby » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:14 pm

Stephen Huller wrote:Irenaeus is credited with writing the original account of Polycarp's death
Is he? On what grounds?
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Re: Were the Gospels Influential on Irenaeus's Martyrdom of

Post by andrewcriddle » Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:38 am

Peter Kirby wrote:
Stephen Huller wrote:Irenaeus is credited with writing the original account of Polycarp's death
Is he? On what grounds?
The end of the Martyrdom of Polycarp reads
These things Caius transcribed from the copy of Irenaeus (who was a disciple of Polycarp), having himself been intimate with Irenaeus. And I Socrates transcribed them at Corinth from the copy of Caius. Grace be with you all.
.................................................................
This amounts to a claim that the text of the Martyrdom goes back to Irenaeus' copy thereof.
However: a/ This is not a direct claim that Irenaeus was involved in composing the martyrdom.
b/ There may be a question mark about the authenticity of this last section. It is not alluded to in Eusebius' version of the martyrdom.

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Post by Roger Pearse » Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:37 am

stephan happy huller wrote:I swear I've been to this bar before ...
The bar-staff seem better, tho.

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