maryhelena wrote:
[Carrier] has, with his mythicist theory ... created a mythicism that cannot be disproved. It's an idea without any roots in physical, historical, realities. It's all pie-in-the-sky stuff. Easy for anyone, scholar or non-scholar, to dismiss as irrelevant to a historical search for early christian origins.
You keep trotting out this nonsense: implying mythicism is somehow not 'historical'. You use any opportunity in discussions about Carrier to bash Carrier
and to misrepresent mythicism and what proposal of it means.
This is disingenuous -
maryhelena wrote:What difference does Carrier's mythicism achieve when lined up against belief in a heavenly hereafter? The heavenly afterlife scenario can inhibit care for the world we live in. Carrier's mythicism closes down a historical search for early christian origins. Doherty closed the door - Carrier has locked the door and thrown away the key...
While I agree with Peter -
Peter Kirby wrote:
... Doherty went too far down the rabbit hole, and Doherty's Alice here follows after, ending up in the same Wonderland.
- and we can also accuse Carrier of chasing Doherty down the rabbit hole, Carrier has, at least in my opinion, not gone so far down.
Carrier has mainly suggested
how the stories might have been developed: the development of the NT books and their accumulation as a 'canon does have a historical
setting and likely numerous
settings.
It's just that we may never
find evidence for
those settings.
- Just as Shakespeare's works have settings: especially his 1599 Tragedy of Julius Caesar
I'd say Carrier has not gone far enough and not been critical or investigative enough of the development of the Pauline narratives as also being allegory.