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Re: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:11 pm
by Mike Z
I would suggest Hippolytus, but it is a rather daunting subject.

Re: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:45 pm
by Peter Kirby
Mike Z wrote:I would suggest Hippolytus, but it is a rather daunting subject.
Thanks for the suggestion. It certainly would have relevant results for scholarship, being a well-known thorny problem.

Re: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:20 am
by Tenorikuma
I wouldn't mind seeing other analyses of known forgeries. It seems to me that there might be a difference between identifying misattribution and forgery with stylometry, since only in the latter case is the author probably trying to disguise his writing.

Re: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:22 am
by andrewcriddle
Peter Kirby wrote:
Mike Z wrote:I would suggest Hippolytus, but it is a rather daunting subject.
Thanks for the suggestion. It certainly would have relevant results for scholarship, being a well-known thorny problem.
One problem is that a lot of "Hippolytus" survives only in translation and Greek stylometry is not possible.

The most obvious thing to do in Greek is try to determine whether 'Refutation of all Heresies is by the same person as Against Noetus

Andrew Criddle

Re: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:33 pm
by Peter Kirby
Tenorikuma wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing other analyses of known forgeries. It seems to me that there might be a difference between identifying misattribution and forgery with stylometry, since only in the latter case is the author probably trying to disguise his writing.
Good suggestion. We have at least one advantage; the techniques used in ancient times to mimic style (or what-have-you) cannot improve ... but our techniques of detection can.

Re: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:23 pm
by Tenorikuma
Out of curiosity, have you considered comparing 3 Corinthians to the other epistles?

Re: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:54 pm
by Peter Kirby
Tenorikuma wrote:Out of curiosity, have you considered comparing 3 Corinthians to the other epistles?
It's very short. I'd need something much better than I have to make anything meaningful out 3 Corinthians.

My next stylometry project will be to improve the algorithm.