Here's the blind spot about Marcion. Ken wrote:
I'm suggesting that Luke may have published a book about Jesus
"Published" implies a public transmission of the gospel. I don't think THE gospel of the Marcionites was EVER published. That's what Secret Mark taught me. The Orthodox defeated the heresies by making it all about publication i.e. putting the works in the libraries of the Empire. The Marcionites kept their gospel hidden and obscure hence the appearance of Luke being before Marcion.
This:
I say, therefore, that in them (and not simply such of them as were rounded by apostles, but in all those which are united with them in the fellowship of the mystery of the gospel of Christ113 ) that Gospel of Luke which we are defending with all our might has stood its ground from its very first publication; whereas Marcion's Gospel is not known to most people, and to none whatever is it known without being at the same time114 condemned.
This says it all. The world only get's the Orthodox's side of the issue. Why? Because the Marcionite gospel was not "published." EVER. Amazing that no one in this idiotic debate has ever noticed this before. And this:
And so throughout this passage he makes it
plain which God's wisdom he is speaking among them that are
perfect—his in fact who has taken away the wisdom of the wise,
and made the prudence of the prudent of none effect, who has
made foolish the wisdom of the world, by choosing its foolish
things and ordaining them for salvation. This wisdom which he
says was kept secret is that which has been in things foolish and
little and dishonourable, which has also been hidden under
figures, both allegories and enigmas, but was afterwards to be
revealed in Christ who was set for a light of the gentiles by that
Creator who by the voice of Isaiah promises that he will open up
invisible and secret treasures.a For that anything should have been
kept hidden by that god who has never done anything at all under
which one might suppose he had hidden something, is incredible
enough: he himself, if he did exist, could not have remained
hidden: far less could any mysteries of his. The Creator however
is himself as well known as those mysteries of his which in Israel
ran in open succession, though in the shade in respect of what
they signified, mysteries in which was hidden that wisdom of God
which in its own time was to be spoken among those that were
perfect, but had been ordained in the purpose of God before the
ages. And whose ages, if not the Creator's?