An angel perhaps, given a promotion? I think Ehrman believes something along those lines, though I haven't looked into that.Peter Kirby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:39 pmI kinda don't get it. Hanging around at creation but not the Son?
Is 'called Christ' in Ant 20:200 a Christian gloss just as 'born by woman' is a Catholic gloss in Gal 4:4?
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Re: Is 'called Christ' in Ant 20:200 a Christian gloss just as 'born by woman' is a Catholic gloss in Gal 4:4?
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Re: Is 'called Christ' in Ant 20:200 a Christian gloss just as 'born by woman' is a Catholic gloss in Gal 4:4?
The "sending his Son" language (Rom 8:3, Gal 4:4) may suggest otherwise.GakuseiDon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:42 pmAn angel perhaps, given a promotion? I think Ehrman believes something along those lines, though I haven't looked into that.Peter Kirby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:39 pmI kinda don't get it. Hanging around at creation but not the Son?
I also tend to discount part of Rom 1:1-5 as an interpolation even if it couldn't be interpreted otherwise, which it probably can.
I may still be missing something here.
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Re: Is 'called Christ' in Ant 20:200 a Christian gloss just as 'born by woman' is a Catholic gloss in Gal 4:4?
marcellus of ancyra probably taught that the word or logos of God went back to the creation but only became the Son of God at the incarnation. (I doubt whether this 4th century position was held in the 1st century.)Peter Kirby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:39 pmI kinda don't get it. Hanging around at creation but not the Son?GakuseiDon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:35 pm According to Paul, Jesus became Son of God at the resurrection. Christians can inherit the mantle via adoption. That would be true whether Jesus was pre-existent or not.
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