Josephus, Antiquities 20.200: List's Take

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Re: Josephus, Antiquities 20.200: List's Take

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Chrissy Hansen wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:32 am
MrMacSon wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:01 pm
τοῦ λεγομένου Χριστοῦ in the extant Ant. 20.200 is in

Matthew 27:17 and 22 : as τὸν λεγόμενον Χριστόν (both in the mouth of Pilate; see footnote 43 below)
Matthew 1:16 : as ὁ λεγόμενος Χριστός1
John 4:25 : also as ὁ λεγόμενος Χριστός

1 which, in footnote 39, List notes is

.a passage about Jesus’s family, is sufficiently biblical (and thus also sufficiently reverential). If it was good enough for [the] author of Matthew, it was certainly good enough for a Christian redactor of Josephus.

And note List's footnote 43:

Note that Origen uses the phrase λεγόμενος Χριστός elsewhere in his works and only in connection to individuals who are not Christians: Pilate (Cels. 1.2; Schol. in Mt. 17.308.11; cf. Matt 27.22) and the Samaritan women (Jo. 1.5.29; 1.21.126; cf. John 4.25), which is consistent with his usage in connection to Josephus.

What is your citation and full title for Origen, Schol. in Mt. 17.308.11? Not seen this one before. I'd also be interested in your citations for Origen, Jo as well. Specifically, just want to know what editions you are using.
They're not my citations: they're Nicholas List's, ie. in 'The Death of James the Just Revisited.' I'm keen to read them, too. I wonder if Schol. in Mt is a Latin title for Commentary on Matthew (and if it's where Origen has cited Matt. 1:16, or Matt. 27:17 or 27:22. I presume Jo is Commentary on John.
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