Gospels, Epistles, Old Testament: the order of books according to Jesus Chri st

[mlinssen]

Gospels, Epistles, Old Testament: the order of books according to Jesus Chri st

The name Jesus Christ appears nowhere in the Gospels, nor in the Epistles.
The very first and oldest, original Greek texts contain only ΙΣ ΧΣ, some form of shorthand - and nowhere is explained what it means. When it is assumed to be an abbreviation, there is more than merely one possibility; and while there is one word assumed to be the word of choice, there is another one that is almost identical.
A thorough and extensive search through all the books of the Bible will answer the question: what does that mysterious ΧΣ stand for, χριστός or χρηστός? The first word means 'anointed' in Greek, the second means 'good', and it is widely assumed that Jesus Christ is the 'Anointed One' - yet even that phrase does not appear anywhere in the New Testament.
It also is unanimously assumed, by laymen as well as scholars, that the chronological order of writings consists of the Old Testament, followed by the Epistles, followed by the Gospels; nothing could be further from the truth, however, and the search results demonstrate that the order is the exact opposite.
The search also reveals very surprising finds in the Epistles, which in turn initiate an entirely new search, that evolves and unfolds entirely in Egypt - where the true origins of this mysterious ΧΣ are found, upon which the most revealing facts of all present themselves.
Not only the Christian Bible is subjected to close scrutiny: the findings are compared with and verified against the oldest and earliest manuscripts such as Codex Sinaiticus, Alexandrinus and Vaticanus, yet also individual and fragmentary papyri. The earliest Patristics are called to the stand, e.g. Justin Martyr, Tertullian and Clement of Alexandria, as well as more objective witnesses such as the Roman historians Tacitus and Suetonius. Yet last and most certainly not least, all of the Nag Hammadi Library is unearthed - again - and a deeply buried secret is brought to light.

This all-embracing book upsets many centuries of Bible studies: on the basis of concisely summarized research results that get presented in a clear and transparent manner, possible solutions are offered for the repeatedly surprising and unexpected facts, the most plausible conclusion of which consistently points in a direction that is at odds with the dogma of the Church. The Christian source texts themselves, the so-called Church Fathers and the so-called apocryphal writings all confirm the shocking conclusion: Jesus Christ, the Anointed One, the Messiah has no original existence whatsoever, and that carefully fabricated concept dates only from many centuries later.

Sample first chapter and Table of Contents

Publication date: ‎December 24, 2023

[StephenGoranson]

In claiming that the Old Testament came after the Gospels and the Epistles--or in claiming that the Septuagint was the third in sequence--is mlinssen using these terms differently than in the usual definitions, or is he ignoring Dead Sea Scrolls in Hebrew and in Greek? Or both?

[RandyHelzerman]

Trobisch has argued that the nomina sacra are an effort to present a uniform "user interface" for the Septuagint--with its euphemisms for the name of god--with the new testament. But the Septuagint also has euphemisms for 'rabbit' too, so it's hard to see how far you can push it.

The earliest dedicated church building we know of has "Chrestus" inscribed on the stone out front. Perhaps "Chrestus" is also a euphemism for Christ.

The ancients recognized that referring to something using a proper name was different from, say, referring to it via a unique description of it. If you gave something a proper name, that means it really existed, and invoking that proper name granted you access to that thing's power (cf. "Thunder, Perfect Mind", which says "I am the utterance of my name" even though it doesn't--also perhaps euphemistically--give us the name of the speaker)

Even in the modern symbolic logic we use today in math, proper names are recognized as operating quite differently than identifying descriptions, e.g.:

1. Perhaps only Abraham Lincoln could have freed the slaves.
2. Perhaps only a president who had a beard and wore a top-hat could have freed the slaves.

mean very different things, even though Abraham Lincoln is uniquely identified as the president who had a beard and wore a top-hat.

I tend to think of nomina sacra along those lines: the author did want to refer to God, or Jesus, but didn't want to invoke the power of God or Jesus in the same way as, say, praying or cursing or blessing.

[lclapshaw]

Trobisch has argued that the nomina sacra are an effort to present a uniform "user interface" for the Septuagint--with its euphemisms for the name of god--with the new testament. But the Septuagint also has euphemisms for 'rabbit' too, so it's hard to see how far you can push it.

The earliest dedicated church building we know of has "Chrestus" inscribed on the stone out front. Perhaps "Chrestus" is also a euphemism for Christ.

The ancients recognized that referring to something using a proper name was different from, say, referring to it via a unique description of it. If you gave something a proper name, that means it really existed, and invoking that proper name granted you access to that thing's power (cf. "Thunder, Perfect Mind", which says "I am the utterance of my name" even though it doesn't--also perhaps euphemistically--give us the name of the speaker)

Even in the modern symbolic logic we use today in math, proper names are recognized as operating quite differently than identifying descriptions, e.g.:

1. Perhaps only Abraham Lincoln could have freed the slaves.
2. Perhaps only a president who had a beard and wore a top-hat could have freed the slaves.

mean very different things, even though Abraham Lincoln is uniquely identified as the president who had a beard and wore a top-hat.

I tend to think of nomina sacra along those lines: the author did want to refer to God, or Jesus, but didn't want to invoke the power of God or Jesus in the same way as, say, praying or cursing or blessing.

Or it could have gone down like this viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10597

[lclapshaw]

Please excuse the title of the above thread, it was created as a joke at the expense of one of our members. Would love to get your take on it though, Randy.

Lane

[RandyHelzerman]

Would love to get your take on it though, Randy.

*chuckle* as a wild atheist, I loved it!!!

[davidmartin]

In claiming that the Old Testament came after the Gospels and the Epistles--or in claiming that the Septuagint was the third in sequence--is mlinssen using these terms differently than in the usual definitions, or is he ignoring Dead Sea Scrolls in Hebrew and in Greek? Or both?

I'm understanding this to mean the Christian published old testament got chock filled with nomina sacra and other updates and there's more meat in here than there is in the preceding NT

[lclapshaw]

Would love to get your take on it though, Randy.

*chuckle* as a wild atheist, I loved it!!!

it's a fun little bit of speculation to play around with.

[Leucius Charinus]

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This all-embracing book upsets many centuries of Bible studies: on the basis of concisely summarized research results that get presented in a clear and transparent manner, possible solutions are offered for the repeatedly surprising and unexpected facts, the most plausible conclusion of which consistently points in a direction that is at odds with the dogma of the Church. The Christian source texts themselves, the so-called Church Fathers and the so-called apocryphal writings all confirm the shocking conclusion: Jesus Christ, the Anointed One, the Messiah has no original existence whatsoever, and that carefully fabricated concept dates only from many centuries later.

Sample first chapter and Table of Contents

Publication date: ‎December 24, 2023

FWIW I certainly agree with this tripart classification of the Christian texts. Good luck with the rest of the book. BTW congrats on the fact that your NHL work is starting to be recognised and referenced.

[Giuseppe]

Gospels, Epistles, Old Testament: the order of books according to Jesus Chri st

Will there be a printed version? I'm afraid not.