The issue we were discussing was the existence/or not of contemporary biological brothers of Jesus based on Paul's letters. Bringing in information from gMark and Josephus was extraneous.Bernard Muller wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:30 amto robert j,What do you mean by "gospel colored glass"" Why would that influence me when reading "the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James" in Antiquities 20.20?Bernard Muller wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:54 pm
Furthermore this is also stated in gMark (which has sisters also) and Josephus Ant. 20.20 (only for James).
I do not know what Paul should have said more to indicate blood brothers, if at that time when Jesus having true brothers was already known by his audience.
If you think you can use such information from gMark (and Josephus) here --- well, I know you are familiar with the phrase "gospel colored glasses".
As for the reference of a "James" as brother of Jesus in gMark, I think the expression "gospel colored glasses" cannot apply.
Reading Paul through gospel colored glasses means using material in the NT Gospels to read information into Paul. You acknowledged Hurtado's error in that regard ---
Bernard Muller wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:54 pmSure, you can blame Hurtado for that.Hurtado: “… other named individuals who were Jesus’ original companions (e.g., Kephas/Peter, John Zebedee).
Response: Paul did not name these individuals as companions of Jesus. And Paul did not identify his single mention of a “John” as “John Zebedee”.