"It has been said that though God cannot alter the past, historians can;
it is perhaps because they can be useful to Him in this respect
that He tolerates their existence."
~ Samuel Butler (1835-1902) Erewhon Revisited
Can God change the past?
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Can God change the past?
A "cobbler of fables" [Augustine]; "Leucius is the disciple of the devil" [Decretum Gelasianum]; and his books "should be utterly swept away and burned" [Pope Leo I]; they are the "source and mother of all heresy" [Photius]
Re: Can God change the past?
Not necessary. The past is the result of the will of God at that time.
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Re: Can God change the past?
The miracle working God that Christians believe in must be able to time travel and change history any way he wants.
Scriptures show Jesus being born of Mary while saying that Jesus was a part of God or the Trinity before the world was even created and an omnipresent omnipotent God would have to be able to time travel as he is already every-when. So to speak.
To people who do not believe in miracles, and those like me, a Gnostic Christian who does not believe in a miracle working creator God, the notion is of course quite foolish.
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DL
Scriptures show Jesus being born of Mary while saying that Jesus was a part of God or the Trinity before the world was even created and an omnipresent omnipotent God would have to be able to time travel as he is already every-when. So to speak.
To people who do not believe in miracles, and those like me, a Gnostic Christian who does not believe in a miracle working creator God, the notion is of course quite foolish.
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DL
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Re: Can God change the past?
That would mean that God willed that A & E eat of the tree of knowledge. Right?Huon wrote:Not necessary. The past is the result of the will of God at that time.
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Re: Can God change the past?
So where do historians fit in to the picture?Huon wrote:Not necessary. The past is the result of the will of God at that time.
Are we to assume they are god's instruments?
A "cobbler of fables" [Augustine]; "Leucius is the disciple of the devil" [Decretum Gelasianum]; and his books "should be utterly swept away and burned" [Pope Leo I]; they are the "source and mother of all heresy" [Photius]
Re: Can God change the past?
So gods do change their minds?the will of God at that time
"We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
Re: Can God change the past?
Actually gods that recreate everything as they wish would mean science is false as there is nothing predictable!
We would not know if omnipotent gods had changed everything last Thursday and the Thursday before.
The existence of gods means nothing is predictable, repeats. Does this not mean the existence of gods is completely untenable as one is left with an infinitely anarchistic and chaotic universe?
Why would the gods have any omni-attributes like justice and reasonableness? If they are gods why are they subject to anything?
We would not know if omnipotent gods had changed everything last Thursday and the Thursday before.
The existence of gods means nothing is predictable, repeats. Does this not mean the existence of gods is completely untenable as one is left with an infinitely anarchistic and chaotic universe?
Why would the gods have any omni-attributes like justice and reasonableness? If they are gods why are they subject to anything?
"We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
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