Re: Is God competent or incompetent?
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:06 am
Mary is also the mother of God
Investigating the roots of western civilization (ye olde BC&H forum of IIDB lives on...)
https://earlywritings.com/forum/
King James Bibleiskander wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:42 pmGnostic Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:19 pmWe likely do not define soul the way you do. first though.
Why does the Christian Exusltet hymn call Adam's sin a happy fault and necessary if it were not so?
God had already slayed that Jesus would die so it seems that God wanted Adam to do what he created him to do. Be the light of the world.
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DLHow does Christian Gnostics interpret Matthew 6 :22?
By looking at what nature does and recognizing what it does as happening to us as well as all other natural animals.iskander wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:11 pmGnostic Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:58 pm Strange that you do not want to judge Eden as our elevation or our fall.
When you state your verdict on the Jewish or Christian views, we can continue.
As to Gnostic Christians, we hold no supernatural beliefs, but see the wisdom in seeking to become as Gods the way A & E did.
Seeking to be as Gods equates to seeking freedom. Not seeking to elevate ourselves and not seeking to be as Gods equates to slavery.
We wonder why all others idol worshiping Christians and Muslims would want to be slaves.
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DLO Felix Culpa, is only a Catholic prayer to make the Fall look better than it is; a morale boosting hymn , a pep talk . They feel happy because they have survived a potentially lethal accident.Gnostic Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:58 pm Strange that you do not want to judge Eden as our elevation or our fall.
When you state your verdict on the Jewish or Christian views, we can continue.
O Felix culpa because it elevates mankind above the status of Adam and Eve, say the RCC.
Cardinal Biffi’s meditation:
"There is surely a mystery here. And this is the subject of Cardinal Biffi’s meditation. He bases it on the teaching of Saint Ambrose who was the Archbishop of Milan from 374 to 397. Actually the phrase “O Felix Culpa,” not the idea, was first used by his disciple Saint Augustine. Saint Thomas Aquinas develops the truth further in his Summa: “But there is no reason why human nature should not have been raised to something greater after sin. For God allows evils to happen in order to bring a greater good therefrom” (Third Part, Question 1, Article 3, Reply to Objection 3). I understand that the redemption wrought by the God-man has elevated those in grace above what would have been due to the just if Adam had not fallen. In the Offertory of the Mass, the priest affirms the same when he prays: “O God, Who in creating man didst exalt his nature very wonderfully and yet more wonderfully didst establish it anew . . .”
http://catholicism.org/o-happy-fault.html
How do Christian Gnostics explain their natural religion?
That does not tell me which version of Genesis you follow or how you see us, as scriptures say, becoming as Gods in the knowing of good and evil.iskander wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:50 pmGnostic Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:58 pm Strange that you do not want to judge Eden as our elevation or our fall.
When you state your verdict on the Jewish or Christian views, we can continue.
The Paschal candle is lit from the triple candle, at FSSP parish in Rome
This is repeated practically verbatim in another verse of the Exultet: “Nihil enim nobis nasci profuit nisi redimi profuisset” (For it availed us nothing to be born, unless it had availed us to be redeemed).
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Too, perhaps Saint Ambrose is merely developing what Saint Paul was inspired to teach in Romans 8:28: “And we know that to them that love God, all things work together unto good, to such as, according to his purpose, are called to be saints.”
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Our illustrious Cardinal also provides a complementary verse from one of the Prefaces of the Ambrosian liturgy: “You bent down over our wounds and healed us, giving us a medicine stronger than our afflictions, a mercy greater than our fault. In this way even sin, by virtue of your invincible love, served to elevate us to the divine life” (Sunday XVI per annum).