iskander wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:43 am
Gnostic Bishop wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:34 pm
iskander wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:47 pm
Gnostic Bishop wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:31 pm Gnostic Christians like me, Karaite Jews and Buddhists, for example, do not have supernatural and mind dulling beliefs.
What is a Gnostic Christian ?
PS You are the best man to answer.
You are correct.
In a nutshell, a Gnostic Christian is a free thinker who is an esoteric ecumenist and naturalist and defines the word God the way the ancients did, as the best rules and laws they could come up with in man, as nothing could be known of the supernatural.
We tend to view the following as what Jesus taught as opposed to what the church teaches.
Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
This link expand on this idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbes ... r_embedded
Regards
DL
Gnostic Bishop wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:34 pm John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Consider John 14: 8-9 : 8 Philip said to him, ‘Lord, show us the Father, and we will be satisfied.’ 9Jesus said to him, ‘Have I been with you all this time, Philip, and you still do not know me? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, “Show us the Father”?
How does a modern Christian Gnostic man/woman love Jesus?
The key words here are keep my words and who, what where Father.
To a Gnostic Christian, --- looking at Michelangelo's creation painting, --- the God the Father is in the right hemisphere of the brain of the Adam/Jesus archetypal non-divine man on the left. That is Jesus showing us where the spark of God is in his own brain/mind/consciousness.
Many think that Gnostic Christians do not like matter. That is what the Christians wanted people to think but it never really stuck given where the spark of God shines within us.
It does not fit our know scriptures.
Gnostic Christian Jesus said, "If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you.
If they say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will precede you.
Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you.
[Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father.
But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."
That same Father spoken of above is the representation of our Father used in Freud and Jung's Father Complex. It is the seat of our instincts which is the source of Gnosis/knowledge of our full self at a subconscious level.
On your loving Jesus question.
John 6 ; 63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Loving Jesus is just loving yourself.
Jesus, or whatever mental image you have of this archetypal good man, is just there to spiritually walk with you to your own spark of God. You might not have your face on that archetype going in, but you have it coming out. That is the message. You are God as all God's are man made. Only you can make you the ideal/God that you would honor. That is the rebirth of the mind to a Christ consciousness.
Jesus said, seek God. He never said seek me. He said honor God. Not honor me.
In saying, I and the Father are one, seen me you have seen the Father, which is Jesus' self created Father,and God, he is asking us to look at his now spiritual side in his brain, recognize that it is there and get to seeking the only God you can ever truly know, yourself.
Gnostic Jesus was questioned as to what sees the vision?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... /mary.html
The Saviour answered and said, 'He does not see through the soul nor through the spirit, but the mind which [is] between the two - that is [what] sees the vision...'
For where the mind is, there is the treasure.
Matthew 6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
The treasure is in you.
Regards
DL