Three perspectives on why man is God’s master.

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Re: Three perspectives on why man is God’s master.

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I think it inevitable that people will recognize that the morality of a given religion should be analyzed and the rest is just commentary. That way a seeker can just choose the best morality and ignore the rest.

If morality is not what people seek, then they are off the mark of what religions are supposed to provide.

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Gnostic Bishop wrote: Sun May 14, 2017 11:12 am
iskander wrote:
Gnostic Bishop wrote:iskander






Perspective 3.
Does as above so below mean that God must abide by man’s laws?
Yes indeed , the laws of a country are to be obeyed by all the people of that country. [color=#FF0000]Religious people are free to practise the religion of their choice for as long as that practice does not break the law of the land.[/color]
Since God is man-made the laws approved by Parliament can only be intended for people of any religious persuasion.
Very nice. Thanks.

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A - Which "religious people" ? Without naming a group your argument is a nonsense since various religious groups have various and even contradictory beliefs. To proceed let us take as an example the main bogeyman for all progressive people - the Catholics.
B - You seem to be a fascist. You deify state which is a common attitude of those who believe that God is the will of the political elite [which makes laws of a state and which, in fact, is the collective of super rich people]. Suppose a state passes a law which mandates DNA screening of pre-born humans and which also orders killing of pre-born humans who have genes for red hair and freckles.
According to your argument religious people [Catholics] must obey "the law of the land", negate their religious beliefs and be a party to mass murder.
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iskander

Perspective 3.
Does as above so below mean that God must abide by man’s laws?
Yes indeed , the laws of a country are to be obeyed by all the people of that country. Religious people are free to practise the religion of their choice for as long as that practice does not break the law of the land.
Since God is man-made the laws approved by Parliament can only be intended for people of any religious persuasion.



A - Which "religious people" ? Without naming a group your argument is a nonsense since various religious groups have various and even contradictory beliefs. To proceed let us take as an example the main bogeyman for all progressive people - the Catholics.
B - You seem to be a fascist. You deify state which is a common attitude of those who believe that God is the will of the political elite [which makes laws of a state and which, in fact, is the collective of super rich people]. Suppose a state passes a law which mandates DNA screening of pre-born humans and which also orders killing of pre-born humans who have genes for red hair and freckles.
According to your argument religious people [Catholics] must obey "the law of the land", negate their religious beliefs and be a party to mass murder.
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Re: Three perspectives on why man is God’s master.

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The law of the land is the law approved by Parliament .[ or equivalent institution]
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sszorin wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:05 am
Gnostic Bishop wrote: Sun May 14, 2017 11:12 am
iskander wrote:
Gnostic Bishop wrote:iskander






Perspective 3.
Does as above so below mean that God must abide by man’s laws?
Yes indeed , the laws of a country are to be obeyed by all the people of that country. [color=#FF0000]Religious people are free to practise the religion of their choice for as long as that practice does not break the law of the land.[/color]
Since God is man-made the laws approved by Parliament can only be intended for people of any religious persuasion.
Very nice. Thanks.

Regards
DL










A - Which "religious people" ? Without naming a group your argument is a nonsense since various religious groups have various and even contradictory beliefs. To proceed let us take as an example the main bogeyman for all progressive people - the Catholics.
B - You seem to be a fascist. You deify state which is a common attitude of those who believe that God is the will of the political elite [which makes laws of a state and which, in fact, is the collective of super rich people]. Suppose a state passes a law which mandates DNA screening of pre-born humans and which also orders killing of pre-born humans who have genes for red hair and freckles.
According to your argument religious people [Catholics] must obey "the law of the land", negate their religious beliefs and be a party to mass murder.
iskander made that statement so I will let him speak to it.

You seem to have started name calling from the get go though. Not a good beginning and a deflection FMPOV.

That aside.

Let me ask you, should we be living by theistic law or the law given by those we elect and support, --- who are around to argue for their law, --- as compared to theistic law that is not chosen by us and cannot be argued or amended by an absentee deity?

Also, which deities law should a country follow when the Gods do not agree with each other?

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DL
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Re: Three perspectives on why man is God’s master.

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Gnostic Bishop wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:01 am
sszorin wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:05 am
Gnostic Bishop wrote: Sun May 14, 2017 11:12 am
iskander wrote:
Gnostic Bishop wrote:iskander






Perspective 3.
Does as above so below mean that God must abide by man’s laws?
Yes indeed , the laws of a country are to be obeyed by all the people of that country. [color=#FF0000]Religious people are free to practise the religion of their choice for as long as that practice does not break the law of the land.[/color]
Since God is man-made the laws approved by Parliament can only be intended for people of any religious persuasion.
Very nice. Thanks.

Regards
DL










A - Which "religious people" ? Without naming a group your argument is a nonsense since various religious groups have various and even contradictory beliefs. To proceed let us take as an example the main bogeyman for all progressive people - the Catholics.
B - You seem to be a fascist. You deify state which is a common attitude of those who believe that God is the will of the political elite [which makes laws of a state and which, in fact, is the collective of super rich people]. Suppose a state passes a law which mandates DNA screening of pre-born humans and which also orders killing of pre-born humans who have genes for red hair and freckles.
According to your argument religious people [Catholics] must obey "the law of the land", negate their religious beliefs and be a party to mass murder.
iskander made that statement so I will let him speak to it.

You seem to have started name calling from the get go though. Not a good beginning and a deflection FMPOV.

That aside.

Let me ask you, should we be living by theistic law or the law given by those we elect and support, --- who are around to argue for their law, --- as compared to theistic law that is not chosen by us and cannot be argued or amended by an absentee deity?

Also, which deities law should a country follow when the Gods do not agree with each other?

Regards
DL

Birmingham Islamic faith school guilty of sex discrimination
An Islamic faith school's policy of segregating boys and girls is unlawful sex discrimination, a court has ruled.

About 20 schools - Islamic, Jewish and Christian - are thought to have similar segregation policies
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bi ... m-41609861
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iskander wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:49 am
Gnostic Bishop wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:01 am
sszorin wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:05 am
Gnostic Bishop wrote: Sun May 14, 2017 11:12 am
iskander wrote:
Very nice. Thanks.

Regards
DL










A - Which "religious people" ? Without naming a group your argument is a nonsense since various religious groups have various and even contradictory beliefs. To proceed let us take as an example the main bogeyman for all progressive people - the Catholics.
B - You seem to be a fascist. You deify state which is a common attitude of those who believe that God is the will of the political elite [which makes laws of a state and which, in fact, is the collective of super rich people]. Suppose a state passes a law which mandates DNA screening of pre-born humans and which also orders killing of pre-born humans who have genes for red hair and freckles.
According to your argument religious people [Catholics] must obey "the law of the land", negate their religious beliefs and be a party to mass murder.
iskander made that statement so I will let him speak to it.

You seem to have started name calling from the get go though. Not a good beginning and a deflection FMPOV.

That aside.

Let me ask you, should we be living by theistic law or the law given by those we elect and support, --- who are around to argue for their law, --- as compared to theistic law that is not chosen by us and cannot be argued or amended by an absentee deity?

Also, which deities law should a country follow when the Gods do not agree with each other?

Regards
DL

Birmingham Islamic faith school guilty of sex discrimination
An Islamic faith school's policy of segregating boys and girls is unlawful sex discrimination, a court has ruled.

About 20 schools - Islamic, Jewish and Christian - are thought to have similar segregation policies
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bi ... m-41609861
I do think that segregation is a good idea either.

I do think that their should be an age difference as to when boys and girls start school.

Some experts recognize that girls tend to mature faster than boys and that boys, for that reason, should start school later than girls. I think it a good idea because of what they say it does to young male egos.
To date, we mostly ignore that.

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DL
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