Why did we stop inventing gods?

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Why did we stop inventing gods?

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Why did we stop inventing gods?

The ancients were quite good at inventing new gods. The bible shows that the Jews invented many gods before deciding that god could not be defined and settled for “I am“, as the greatest expression of god. “I am” as spoken as a man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJkNs512Lsk

Jews, in their oral tradition, gave man the last word in what god and his policies were to be. They accepted that the man they chose as head Rabbi of their Divine council had the power to overrule their written tradition. Man’s words, not an imaginary god, had the final say on policy. Man was supreme and not one of the imaginary gods.

Christianity then changed much of the morals and policies of their newly invented god, Yahweh, and also transferred the power of god to a man. Jesus. Jesus was now placed at the power seat at the right hand of his newly invented god and placed Yahweh in the right hemisphere of the brain, as shown in the art of the day as depicted by Michelangelo in his creation painting in the Vatican.

Islam then invented Allah, and so far, rightfully named him the last god to be invented. Foolish but true to date.

I see that search for a god as a search for the best laws and rules to live life by. After all, we cannot follow an imaginary god and can only follow the laws and rules that those imaginary gods has spoken, recognizing of course, that only a person can speak those laws and rules and that it was really a wise person who was uttering those words.

Gnostic Christians always saw those invented gods, specifically Yahweh, Jesus and Allah, as immoral and not worthy of us and that is why they named those gods as immoral and vile demiurges. This is not to say that those demiurges did not have some good policies but only says that a better god could and should be invented. Gnostic Christianity lost the god wars and was decimated the moment Christianity gained political power which they used to end freedom of religion.

Are immoral demiurges like Yahweh, Jesus and Allah, the best that mankind can come up with?

Why do you think we stopped inventing gods and settled for demonstrably immoral ones?

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P.S. Gods are the opium of the people.
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Definition of demiurge in English:
A being responsible for the creation of the universe, in particular:
1.1(In Platonic philosophy) the Maker or Creator of the world.
• Interwoven with these references to an almost Platonic demiurge are appeals to the selecting power of an active ‘Nature’.
• A certain mystique attached to the word as a result of analogies often drawn between the creative activity of the artist and the creation of the world by the deity or by a Platonic demiurge in accordance with Ideas or prototypes.
• Western concepts of God have ranged from the detached transcendent demiurge of Aristotle to the pantheism of Spinoza.
1.2(In Gnosticism and other theological systems) a heavenly being, subordinate to the Supreme Being, that is considered to be the controller of the material world and antagonistic to all that is purely spiritual.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/defin ... h/demiurge
The demiurge is the creator of the Universe and , presumably , the caretaker. He/she/it is antagonistic to all that is purely spiritual, which is good: he looks after Andromeda and we will vote the laws.

There is only one creator of the Universe. Hail Cesar
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iskander wrote:Definition of demiurge in English:
A being responsible for the creation of the universe, in particular:
1.1(In Platonic philosophy) the Maker or Creator of the world.
• Interwoven with these references to an almost Platonic demiurge are appeals to the selecting power of an active ‘Nature’.
• A certain mystique attached to the word as a result of analogies often drawn between the creative activity of the artist and the creation of the world by the deity or by a Platonic demiurge in accordance with Ideas or prototypes.
• Western concepts of God have ranged from the detached transcendent demiurge of Aristotle to the pantheism of Spinoza.
1.2(In Gnosticism and other theological systems) a heavenly being, subordinate to the Supreme Being, that is considered to be the controller of the material world and antagonistic to all that is purely spiritual.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/defin ... h/demiurge
The demiurge is the creator of the Universe and , presumably , the caretaker. He/she/it is antagonistic to all that is purely spiritual, which is good: he looks after Andromeda and we will vote the laws.

There is only one creator of the Universe. Hail Cesar
I can live with that description of the supernatural gods.

Do you disagree with my statement that Yahweh and Allah are vile demiurges?

I can also agree with your notion that the state is the creator of the political part of the universe that most of us live in. We mostly all follow and live by the law of the land and not by theistic laws.

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Gnostic Bishop wrote:...
I can live with that description of the supernatural gods.

Do you disagree with my statement that Yahweh and Allah are vile demiurges?

I can also agree with your notion that the state is the creator of the political part of the universe that most of us live in. We mostly all follow and live by the law of the land and not by theistic laws.

Regards
DL
Gods, demiurges, angels, karmas, hells ... are all made by men. The Americans dropped two atomic bombs on Japan and proceeded to build and deploy many more atomic bombs before their allies had one.
The problem then was the evil deeds of pagan Japan and the diabolical threat of godless Communists. Now we are democratic and god-fearing people but there are bombs everywhere.
The demiurge was truly vile and yet we still love it!
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iskander wrote:
Gnostic Bishop wrote:...
I can live with that description of the supernatural gods.

Do you disagree with my statement that Yahweh and Allah are vile demiurges?

I can also agree with your notion that the state is the creator of the political part of the universe that most of us live in. We mostly all follow and live by the law of the land and not by theistic laws.

Regards
DL
Gods, demiurges, angels, karmas, hells ... are all made by men. The Americans dropped two atomic bombs on Japan and proceeded to build and deploy many more atomic bombs before their allies had one.
The problem then was the evil deeds of pagan Japan and the diabolical threat of godless Communists. Now we are democratic and god-fearing people but there are bombs everywhere.
The demiurge was truly vile and yet we still love it!
Indeed. It seems we love our gods for their power while ignoring their poor morals.

That does not say much about man's spiritual evolution. Or actually, it says a lot about it, but not much good.

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Gnostic Bishop wrote:...Indeed. It seems we love our gods for their power while ignoring their poor morals.

That does not say much about man's spiritual evolution. Or actually, it says a lot about it, but not much good.

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DL
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No argument.

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Gnostic Bishop wrote:No argument.

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DL
:)

Pilgrimages are an obligation in many religions . Christianity and Islam were infected by the ' Hashemites'. The Hindus pollute the Ganges and Buddhists also have pilgrims galore.


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TEHRAN (FNA)- On 24 September 2015, a crowd collapse caused the deaths of thousands of pilgrims who suffocated or crushed during the annual Hajj pilgrimage in Mina, Mecca, making it the deadliest Hajj disaster in history. Around 500 were Iranians. At the same time, the Saudi prince was doing a VIP Hajj. [PHOTOS] "
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Religions like to create requirements for the sheeple to dance to.

It is all a part of their social manipulation and control designed to maintain mind control.

Obligations are part of creating guilt in those that do not do as bid. Obligations are a part of the psychology of sacrifice as the more one sacrifices to a cause or religion, the more he ties himself to it.

Most do not like to admit that they gave to a rip off artist.

• Religion was born when the first con-man met the first fool - Mark Twain

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Gnostic Bishop wrote:Religions like to create requirements for the sheeple to dance to.

It is all a part of their social manipulation and control designed to maintain mind control.

Obligations are part of creating guilt in those that do not do as bid. Obligations are a part of the psychology of sacrifice as the more one sacrifices to a cause or religion, the more he ties himself to it.

Most do not like to admit that they gave to a rip off artist.

• Religion was born when the first con-man met the first fool - Mark Twain

Regards
DL
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