Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?

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Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?

Post by Gnostic Bishop » Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:46 am

Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?

Adam thought so. He instantly and without argument or hesitation ate of that knowledge when Eve offered love to Adam.

Without Satan causing Original Sin, mankind could no know of love or hate as love and hate are subject to being good or evil.

Would you do as Adam did?

Was Satan right in opening our eyes to love and hate?

Should we venerate Satan more than Yahweh who tried to deny mankind love?

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Re: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?

Post by Nasruddin » Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:35 pm

Where does it say that Good and Evil (or Love and Hate) did not exist before the serpent enticed Eve? It was the Knowledge of Good and Evil that Eve discovered through the help of the serpent (who is not defined as Satan in the Old Testament), not the ability to perform good or evil itself. Once Eve and Adam gained the knowledge (or perception - "their eyes were opened") of good and evil, they then felt guilt, shame and fear. Previously all had been perceived as good in their innocence, and they had "felt no shame". In that state of innocence love existed and all things were 'good' (i.e. evil was not perceived or felt). Once they gained Knowledge, they became ashamed and fearful of their own behaviour. The serpent gave them the negative feelings that allowed man to perceive and feel the difference between good and evil.

The freedom from feelings of shame or guilt, and the ability to see only the good in things, is usually something people strive for.

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Re: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?

Post by Gnostic Bishop » Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:54 am

Nasruddin wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:35 pm
Where does it say that Good and Evil (or Love and Hate) did not exist before the serpent enticed Eve? It was the Knowledge of Good and Evil that Eve discovered through the help of the serpent (who is not defined as Satan in the Old Testament), not the ability to perform good or evil itself. Once Eve and Adam gained the knowledge (or perception - "their eyes were opened") of good and evil, they then felt guilt, shame and fear. Previously all had been perceived as good in their innocence, and they had "felt no shame". In that state of innocence love existed and all things were 'good' (i.e. evil was not perceived or felt). Once they gained Knowledge, they became ashamed and fearful of their own behaviour. The serpent gave them the negative feelings that allowed man to perceive and feel the difference between good and evil.

The freedom from feelings of shame or guilt, and the ability to see only the good in things, is usually something people strive for.
They strive for the good only because they recognize that they do not want the evil.

If you know good, you automatically know evil.

To exercise free will and choose good instead of evil or love over hate, one must know what good and evil and love and hate are. Right?

God denied that knowledge and thus denied A & E free will and the knowledge of love and how to love.

If love and hate existed in Eden before the eating of knowledge, A & E would not have recognized them for what they are.

Having no moral sense or knowledge of things, evil would look just as desirable as good. Not that A & E would have even had the desire to choose given that they did not know what the choices on the menu were.

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