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by Stuart
Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Parallels in the Accounts of Carpocrates and Cerinthus
Replies: 58
Views: 26990

Re: The Parallels in the Accounts of Carpocrates and Cerinthus

I see the lists in AH 1.23-31 (1.22 something of a transition to the added material) as much later than the author of the first 21 chapters, something of an appended document from somewhere else. The first of the dead giveaways are the switching from a argument style to that of simply defining the o...
by Stuart
Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Exodus 20:7 and Mark 15:34
Replies: 2
Views: 2109

Re: Exodus 20:7 and Mark 15:34

Uh, it comes from Psalm 22:1 (LXX 21:2). The Aramaic in Matthew and Mark is almost certainly anachronistic, a literary device, nothing more.
by Stuart
Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Folly of 'Jewish Christianity' Theories
Replies: 115
Views: 72124

Re: The Folly of 'Jewish Christianity' Theories

The consensus reconstruction of Marcionite Galatians excludes verses 1:18-24, and most also verse 1:17. The entire first visit to Jerusalem is missing. All mention of Barnabas is missing. There are many other verses and phrases (parts of verses) missing, as there are throughout the corpus. Linguisti...
by Stuart
Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Clement Dated Luke to the Middle of the Second Century
Replies: 38
Views: 33313

Re: Clement Dated Luke to the Middle of the Second Century

Irenaeus is not 2nd century, but a collection of material that spans 3rd and 4th century. The very same reasons you doubt Tertullian (and I agree with some) need to be applied to the other church father writings. Ignatius is unknown -- or at least his supposed writings, until well into the 4th centu...
by Stuart
Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Clement Dated Luke to the Middle of the Second Century
Replies: 38
Views: 33313

Re: Clement Dated Luke to the Middle of the Second Century

Ignatius was dated in the 4th/5th century. Although some folks have tried to push it back to the early 2nd century because they prefer the theology to have been from that era. It's not based on any real forensics.
by Stuart
Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:26 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Early Christian Terminology in the Death of Peregrinus
Replies: 78
Views: 43722

Re: Early Christian Terminology in the Death of Peregrinus

Martyrdom implies strongly that we are talking post-Decian authorship.
by Stuart
Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Clement Dated Luke to the Middle of the Second Century
Replies: 38
Views: 33313

Re: Clement Dated Luke to the Middle of the Second Century

It has been seriously suggested that Onesimus the runaway slave in Paul's letter to Philemon (not the Pastorals) and Onesimus the bishop in Ignatius are the same person fifty years apart. Andrew Criddle This is literature, anything is possible with legends (look at Star Trek and Harry Potter; heck ...
by Stuart
Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Clement Dated Luke to the Middle of the Second Century
Replies: 38
Views: 33313

Re: Clement Dated Luke to the Middle of the Second Century

These names show up in the secondary "so and so send greetings/salutations" which are almost certainly not part of the original letters. Apelles (Romans 16:10) for one shows up. It should be noted that the word ἀσπάζομαι seems not to have been found in the Marcionite versions of the Paulin...
by Stuart
Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: “Are you the king of the Jews?” as anti-marcionite question
Replies: 13
Views: 14137

Re: “Are you the king of the Jews?” as anti-marcionite question

Jesus Barabbas and Barabbas achieve the same goal, just as Simon Peter and Peter do. It's a distinction without a difference. BTW, Couchoud is just a guy, like you an me. And like you and me you can pick a piece here and there that makes sense, and you can discard what you think goes too far or is o...
by Stuart
Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:04 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: “Are you the king of the Jews?” as anti-marcionite question
Replies: 13
Views: 14137

Re: “Are you the king of the Jews?” as anti-marcionite question

BTW, I don't think you will find the magical "first Christian beliefs" with the original Gospel. Never meant do that. The Gospels are only propaganda, so by definition a betrayal of the reality. Clearly the killers of Jesus were identified with the Jews because of a radical opposition aga...