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by MrMacSon
Sun Oct 06, 2013 1:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: WHO established the Christian canon?
Replies: 9
Views: 23681

Re: WHO established the Christian canon?

Robert Price seems to agree with David Probisch about an earlier version of the NT than that in Codex Sinaiticus & Codex Vaticanus

David Trobisch, The First Edition of the New Testament. Oxford University Press, 2000.

Reviewed by Robert M. Price (2009)
by MrMacSon
Sun Oct 06, 2013 1:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Historical Jesus scholarship
Replies: 14
Views: 40212

Re: Historical Jesus scholarship

just realized I spelt "copped" as 'coped' in that post :oops:

I agree mythics is a small (and somewhat confusing!) aspect of determining issues around Jesus scholarship.
by MrMacSon
Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:42 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Irenaeus a Lady?
Replies: 10
Views: 30884

Re: Was Irenaeus a Lady?

... the first guy is dependent on a group of first through third century sources in his own tradition that are preserved in a far more unreliable manner than the Christian sources. This seems to be a strawman red-herring. " dependent on a group of first through third century 'sources' " ....
by MrMacSon
Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:32 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Historical Jesus scholarship
Replies: 14
Views: 40212

Re: Historical Jesus scholarship

Hi Eric, Bart Ehrman has written a number of very good books . He copped a lot of criticism for Did Jesus Exist? , some because he did not seem to appropriate use or address historical methodology and because he made a number of bare assertions. It was also interesting at the time that book came out...
by MrMacSon
Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Irenaeus a Lady?
Replies: 10
Views: 30884

Re: Was Irenaeus a Lady?

"The 'preservation' of [the works of] Christian writers from the 1st - 3rd centuries" is a separate issue to the preservation of works of contemporary Jewish writers other than where a topic of interest is discussed by both groups of writers. It is intriguing how many of their alleged work...
by MrMacSon
Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Historical Jesus scholarship
Replies: 14
Views: 40212

Re: Historical Jesus scholarship

Bart Ehrman has written many well regarded books about early christian writings. He coped a lot of criticism for Did Jesus Exist? including a multi-author book in response.
by MrMacSon
Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Historical Jesus scholarship
Replies: 14
Views: 40212

Re: Historical Jesus scholarship

'Authorities' generally have greater capacity to provide an overview of information in subjects they are authorities in, and to generally make better arguments around that information. But they still have to make good arguments - sound deductive arguments or cogent inductive arguments. That is where...
by MrMacSon
Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:43 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: dewitness VS Earl Doherty (was: Historicity of Jesus...)
Replies: 28
Views: 64374

Re: Historicity of Jesus - the Talking Points

It seems the assertion that (to paraphrase?)
  • "Man was made in the image of God"
is really a reversal of, to me, the more likely proposition that ... gods were made in the image of man
by MrMacSon
Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:33 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: dewitness VS Earl Doherty (was: Historicity of Jesus...)
Replies: 28
Views: 64374

dewitness VS Earl Doherty (was: Historicity of Jesus...)

The evidence actually shows that Doherty's claim was most likely invented and have no actual support in or out the Canon. In effect, Doherty cannot present any direct clear written statement by any writer of antiquity who stated that Jesus was not ever believed to be on earth and was crucified in s...