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by Peter Kirby
Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:55 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Empty Tomb in Mark's gospel not written by original author
Replies: 15
Views: 21509

Re: Empty Tomb in Mark's gospel not written by original auth

I found a larger excerpt... http://stephanhuller.blogspot.com/2011/07/john-dominic-crossan-on-canonical-mark.html My theory, then, is that canonical Mark dismembered Secret Mark's story of the young man's resurrection and initiation so that only Mark 14:51–52 residually evidenced the initiation and ...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: “High/Early Christology”: A Crack in the Foundations?
Replies: 27
Views: 26090

Re: “High/Early Christology”: A Crack in the Foundations?

I'm not sure that a single, obscure text, completely unknown to rabbinical Judaism ("The Wisdom of Solomon"), can be used to broadly claim that "Judaism had already taken a turn for the Arian." Melito, I believe, classified it within the New Testament canon. People who think the...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:46 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why There Is Not And Never Will Be Consensus
Replies: 32
Views: 21167

Re: Why There Is Not And Never Will Be Consensus

It's not so much a question of being "sure," of being able to "solve" things, or of being able to "prove" anything as it is being able to produce a consensus. Not everyone interested in the subject is interested in approaching it rationally (most, in fact, aren't). This...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:41 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: my Testimonium article
Replies: 88
Views: 101020

Re: my Testimonium article

If there was originally no reference to the brother of Jesus then you would expect either a man (accusative) whose name was James (nominative) or simply James (accusative) Correct. Earl Doherty (and, by quotation, my essay) acknowledges that, under this hypothesis, there would have been a change in...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Testimonium Taciteum
Replies: 41
Views: 47195

Re: my Testimonium article

From my reading of Fergus Millar's first article, Carrier's got nothing to support his views. If you regard the question as inconclusive, then I believe it has to be dropped as an argument against the authenticity of the passage. You require the conclusion that to call Pilate a procurator was a mis...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Empty Tomb in Mark's gospel not written by original author
Replies: 15
Views: 21509

Re: Empty Tomb in Mark's gospel not written by original auth

"Note: Dominic Crossan, in 'the Historical Jesus', pages 415-416, also suspects the original gospel ended at 15:39." My understanding is that J.D. Crossan would put the ending of GMark 1:1-x:x at 16:8. It is the hypothesized 'pre Markan passion narrative' also sometimes (ie, by Crossan) ca...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:34 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: “High/Early Christology”: A Crack in the Foundations?
Replies: 27
Views: 26090

Re: “High/Early Christology”: A Crack in the Foundations?

Paul did not think Jesus was God. Hurtado is wrong about that. I think he draws a false dichotomy between human and "divine" Christologies and gives to short a shrift to angelic Christologies. I agree. Citing Hurtado here is certainly not without its problems. What about "Wisdom"...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Testimonium Taciteum
Replies: 41
Views: 47195

Re: Testimonium Taciteum

I'll admit to feeling out of my depth here. I have e-mailed Richard Carrier for any possible clarification that he can make here.
by Peter Kirby
Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:53 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: of arguments from ignorance and Jesus
Replies: 0
Views: 7595

of arguments from ignorance and Jesus

Fernando Bermejo-Rubio makes three arguments: http://www.bibleinterp.com/opeds/2013/12/rub378009.shtml and the first is, I claim, an example of the fallacy known as an argument from ignorance: http://peterkirby.com/the-logic-of-debate-and-the-historicity-of-jesus.html and betrays lack of understandi...
by Peter Kirby
Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Testimonium Taciteum
Replies: 41
Views: 47195

Re: my Testimonium article

spin wrote:First we note the silence on the "procurator" error that does not reflect what we know Tacitus knows.
At the risk of opening my mouth and removing all doubt, I ask if it is foolish to consider this relevant.

https://www.academia.edu/2211986/On_the ... nd_Prefect