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- Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:47 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Non-biblical historians and the letters of Paul
- Replies: 28
- Views: 4083
Re: Non-biblical historians and the letters of Paul
Thanks, MrMacSon. Is there something in that video that is pertinent to the question? They seem to assume that Paul is consistent with the mainstream with regards to my four points in the OP.
- Fri Mar 18, 2022 8:34 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Non-biblical historians and the letters of Paul
- Replies: 28
- Views: 4083
Non-biblical historians and the letters of Paul
This is a continuation of ideas from here: https://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9194&p=134623#p134623 I guess most of us on this board agree that the biblical scholars' evaluation of Biblical materials -- Old Testament, New Testament, the Church Fathers' -- has been coloured b...
- Fri Mar 18, 2022 8:16 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity
- Replies: 181
- Views: 25434
Re: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity
Actually, I'll start a separate thread on what I'm asking. It is part of the implications of the primacy of Marcion's Gospel, but the concepts deserve their own consideration. Neil is most welcome to join in! It least for his first three responses!
- Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:10 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity
- Replies: 181
- Views: 25434
Re: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity
GDon, instead of complaining that you are being "personally attacked" when I point out that you have clearly not read a single one of the posts you claimed to be addressing, and for misleadingly appearing to claim I said things I never said, simply move on, go back and read them, then res...
- Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:48 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity
- Replies: 181
- Views: 25434
Re: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity
Sigh sigh sigh. GDon, andrewcriddle, and now mlinssen Welcome to the club, mlinssen! :cheers: There are many of us here now. Unfortunately I forgot the chief advice of our club: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DGNZnfKYnU A good rule of thumb: you get about 3 good responses from Neil, and then he m...
- Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:51 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity
- Replies: 181
- Views: 25434
Re: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity
I scolding GDon for outrageously misrepresenting, no, for DISrepresenting the post of my first link, I had a sleep and woke up feeling more saintly: perhaps the good fellow made an mistake in saying it was the " first link" to which he was referring. Maybe it was one of the other. So I ch...
- Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:31 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Is reassessing Paul's timeline a direct and necessary consequence of deeming the Gospels and Acts as non-historical?
- Replies: 22
- Views: 2779
Re: Is reassessing Paul's timeline a direct and necessary consequence of deeming the Gospels and Acts as non-historical?
Is reassessing Paul's timeline a direct and necessary consequence of deeming the Gospels and Acts as non-historical? Dr Carrier doesn't believe so, at least for his mythicist theory. Carrier appears to agree with the consensus of biblical scholars. As Carrier writes in his OHJ, page 260-1: The curr...
- Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:42 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity
- Replies: 181
- Views: 25434
Re: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity
Just to briefly expand on an earlier point: In my younger days I used to debate against creationists. Creationists believe the whole field of evolutionary science is biased and filled with bad arguments. "A field in crisis!" is the common complaint. Creationists believe that Stephen Jay Go...
- Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:39 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity
- Replies: 181
- Views: 25434
Re: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity
Everything at https://vridar.org/historical-method-and-the-question-of-christian-origins/ is what you will find in discussions of historical research by historians. I set out a chart of a handful of case studies at https://vridar.org/2013/01/31/that-chart-of-mythical-and-historical-persons-with-exp...
- Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:03 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity
- Replies: 181
- Views: 25434
Re: Primacy of Marcion and implications for historicity
Look at all the variables in your model: You assume the Gospel of Mark and Paul's letters were written in the first century -- even though our earliest sure independent witnesses of these texts is the mid or even late second century. Yes. If the Gospel of Mark and the letters of Paul were found to ...