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Gday, Carrier is very imaginative and convoluted on that one [Jesus being 'Made of Woman']: http://historical-jesus.sosblogs.com/Historical-Jesus-Blo-b1/72-Carrier-s-far-fetched-explanation-for-Galatians-44-Jesus-come-of-a-woman-come-under-the-Law-b1-p77.htm A seed of David is not enough, a real wom...

Gday neilgodfrey, In the case of Jesus I think that comes down to the way we assess and interpret the passage "brother of the Lord". Indeed - that seems to be the most obvious sticking point, most other alleged evidences for Jesus are very weak. For me - the so many times that Paul uses 'b...

Gday Bernard, And that makes a lot of sense!!! And we have no evidence a passage from 2 Samuel 7 was interpreted as such by anyone. Even Carrier admits it requires peshering and imagination to arrive at that conclusion: Cordially, Bernard Well, the passage in question : When your days are done, and ...

So JC was a minister of the circumcision - not very clear here - it does not necessarily mean he was a literal minister. Carrier says all it means is that Jesus had to be given a Jewish body (in the heavens) and appear first to Jews. Quite a bit far-fetched: Jesus being given a Jewish body (that is...

Gday Bernard, Without arguing subtleties, there are some obvious problems with your list : 8) He had brothers (contemporaries of Paul) (1 Cor 9:5). 9) These brothers were travelling with "a "sister", a wife" (1 Cor 9:5). 10) One of Jesus' brothers was named "James" (Gal...

Gday all, So, now here is my summary of my analysis of Bernard's list : 1) Jesus was a man "the one man Jesus Christ" (Ro 5:15). Probably an argument for historicity 2) He was a Jew (said to be descendant of Abraham (Gal 3:16), Israelites (Ro 9:4-5), Jesse (Ro 15:12) & David (Ro 1:3). ...

Gday all, More on Bernard Muller's list of historical references to Jesus : 4) He was a minister to Jews (Ro 15:8). Rom. 15:8"Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises [made] unto the fathers:" So JC was a minister of the c...

Gday all, Bernard listed a series of evidence for Jesus being historical : http://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=687&p=14401&hilit=worldly#p14401 Here is his list, I will go through them one by one and see how they stand up to scrutiny : 1) Jesus was a man "the one man ...

Gday toejam, For me, the view that makes the most sense out of Paul's letters is that he thought Jesus was a pre-existent angel of somesort who had himself incarnated here on Earth, "born of a woman under the law" etc., and it was this double-whammy of being angelic but 'one of us' that op...

Gday, [ . . . ] Peter's escape from prison is constructed from Priam's escape from Achilles.9[ . . . ] The tiniest nit-pick in an admirable work, one which will be shortly on my bookshelf. I think the incident is Paris' escape from Menelaus, but I could be wrong, not for the first time. Once again, ...