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by Michael BG
Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Three stages of the incarnation of Jesus
Replies: 9
Views: 1125

Re: Three stages of the incarnation of Jesus

The opposite view can be stated that Jesus was actually born on earth to a human mother and father. That after was he was crucified his followers saw him in heaven and changed his view of himself in relation to the Son of Man, so he was seen as the Son of Man. This developed into seeing him in heave...
by Michael BG
Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No Christology in the Q community
Replies: 101
Views: 98774

Re: No Christology in the Q community

to Michael BG, It is much more likely that Luke has put these verses on Jesus’ lips for religious reasons and to justify the claim that Jesus’ ministry was only a year long. Absolutely. That's what I always thought, Isaiah & all. It was you who claimed – "Mark" might have implied one ...
by Michael BG
Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:17 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No Christology in the Q community
Replies: 101
Views: 98774

Re: No Christology in the Q community

to Michael BG, I always though Mark implies that Jesus’ ministry is one year and Luke just takes it over and adds a fictional year for it to happen in. The reason is because Luke’s wants his readers to think he is writing a history which has dates from known history. "Mark" might have imp...
by Michael BG
Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No Christology in the Q community
Replies: 101
Views: 98774

Re: No Christology in the Q community

to Michael BG, If Luke didn’t know the historical order of the sayings and miracles in Mark then he is unlikely to know the historical order of the sayings and miracles he passes on in Acts. As I have stated you need to reject the order of events in Acts as it is unreliable. You need to reject Luke...
by Michael BG
Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:54 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No Christology in the Q community
Replies: 101
Views: 98774

Re: No Christology in the Q community

to Michael BG, It is therefore a mistake to assume that when the author of a gospel or Acts had been passed on any dates it is historical. It is only Luke who adds dates. Therefore every date added by Luke is unlikely to be historical. In the same way as the gospel of Mark does not order the saying...
by Michael BG
Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:33 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No Christology in the Q community
Replies: 101
Views: 98774

Re: No Christology in the Q community

to Michael BG, … If you accept Acts as having some historical value, why do you reject systematically the aforementioned which has no obvious Christian propaganda? As I stated your methodology is at fault. You need to start with the traditions, these are what was passed down not the dates. Therefor...
by Michael BG
Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No Christology in the Q community
Replies: 101
Views: 98774

Re: No Christology in the Q community

to Michael BG, I have to let you keep your opinions, create your history and reject Acts and the gospels (more so gMark) as having no historical values (with a very few exceptions). Firstly I haven’t rejected Mark. Secondly, I haven’t rejected Acts as having no historical value. Like Mark and Q, Ac...
by Michael BG
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No Christology in the Q community
Replies: 101
Views: 98774

Re: No Christology in the Q community

to Michael BG, … No, Paul did not have to provide a list of places he already went. And Paul never said he went ONLY in Syria and Cilicia during these 14 years. Why did he mention Syria & Cilicia? Because Paul visited these places at the very beginning of his "ministry" (with Barnabas...
by Michael BG
Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:50 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No Christology in the Q community
Replies: 101
Views: 98774

Re: No Christology in the Q community

to Michael BG, Jerusalem is in Palestine or Judea if you prefer. Paul says he went to Jerusalem (Gal. 1:18). Does not matter, Paul did not preach in Palestine or Jerusalem then (and that was a short visit), so he was unknown by face to the Churches of Judea in Christ. I have not read in Palestine, ...
by Michael BG
Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No Christology in the Q community
Replies: 101
Views: 98774

Re: No Christology in the Q community

to Michael BG, Paul writes: Then I went into the regions of Syria and Cili'cia. And I was still not known by sight to the churches of Christ in Judea; Then after fourteen years I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, taking Titus along with me. (Gal. 1:21-22, 2:1) Therefore from the time of Pau...