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by Aleph One
Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What was the original logic behind Jesus's death?
Replies: 10
Views: 9460

What was the original logic behind Jesus's death?

So I'm wondering what the cause or purpose behind jesus's death was for the earlist christians, like paul. I gather paul thought christ's death freed humanity from the jewish law but is it because jesus lived a perfect life under the law and was still executed, invalidating the deal between god and ...
by Aleph One
Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:26 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Interesting statement in Romans 15
Replies: 14
Views: 17870

Re: Interesting statement in Romans 15

Very interesting find! I was just reading Thomas E. Phillips's When Did Paul Become a Christian?: Rereading Paul’s Autobiography in Galatians and Biography in Acts in Essays in Honor of Dennis R. MacDonald where he posits: I quickly came to believe that nearly all scholars, even the most widely resp...
by Aleph One
Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Funny thing about Acts... (Paul's trial)
Replies: 122
Views: 59274

Re: Funny thing about Acts... (Paul's trial)

I've seen many anachronisms and cultural misunderstandings pointed out in the gospels' trials of jesus (such as the timing of the trial, the type of charges brought against him, the way the trial is carried out, etc.) but do we know if Paul's trial in acts rings truer historically?
by Aleph One
Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Funny thing about Acts... (Paul's trial)
Replies: 122
Views: 59274

Re: Funny thing about Acts... (Paul's trial)

For one thing, what I suspect is that belief in Jesus wasn't the start of the communities of earliest Christianity. Most likely thee were existing "churches" that shared some set of Christian type beliefs, and then "visions of Jesus" were introduced into the cult. I hope this is...
by Aleph One
Thu May 07, 2020 6:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Papyrus 20915 and Barnabas
Replies: 6
Views: 7676

Re: Papyrus 20915 and Barnabas

Wow! the entire article describing this 'berlin codex' makes it sound fascinating. The fact that the paper is 20 years old though with no english translation having appeared doesn't give me much hope for it showing up any time soon. :-(
by Aleph One
Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1 Corinthians 14:34, 35 Not Authentic Say Cambridge Scholars
Replies: 29
Views: 24424

Re: 1 Corinthians 14:34, 35 Not Authentic Say Cambridge Scholars

To Ben and Stuart: Is your discussion here tangential to the specific paper mentioned in the link? I'm not in a great position to judge its merits but it sounds to me like the case for the offending verse to be "disputed" from the earliest witness is really strong, especially relative to t...
by Aleph One
Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:17 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who'sonfirst? GMark As Separationist
Replies: 12
Views: 27869

Re: Who'sonfirst? GMark As Separationist

I think this is good info too. I realize I was sometimes assuming or meaning separationist when saying adoptionist (by this definition) in my thread about GMark and the empty tomb. My question should have been, "Why would a seperationalist Mark need Christ to reclaim Jesus's body from the tomb?...
by Aleph One
Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:47 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb
Replies: 74
Views: 68849

Re: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb

Another reading of John 's account of Mary meeting the risen Jesus is that the author is realistically depicting clinical shock. During a weekend of severe psychological trauma, Mary becomes fixated on the idea that the missing corpse has been moved. When Jesus comes along, she sees him as a functi...
by Aleph One
Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:08 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb
Replies: 74
Views: 68849

Re: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb

So I was looking through all the NT post-resurrection appearances of Jesus to see which ones they recognized him in immediately, and which ones he had some other form. My purpose was just to look into the idea that if Jesus was going to appear to everyone as a stranger anyway, then there's even less...
by Aleph One
Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb
Replies: 74
Views: 68849

Re: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb

Thanks very much to everyone who replied. There's definitely some stuff to chew on here. I'm going to check out the links to the papers from Ben and some of the other recommended material and see what jumps out at me.