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by spin
Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:33 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Ethnarch of King Aretas? the legendary Damascus basket case
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Re: evidence of an earthly human Jesus in the Pauline epistl

Sadly, no. The Romans took control of Petra several decades later. That's the complete conquest you are talking about. Some secular historians (not consulting Wiki!) wrote that, before, Nabatea was a client kingdom (or vassal, or allied) to the Romans, but it is never stated, just implied . That sh...
by spin
Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:25 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Ethnarch of King Aretas? the legendary Damascus basket case
Replies: 250
Views: 252347

Re: evidence of an earthly human Jesus in the Pauline epistl

Murphy-O'Connor wrongly associates the situation of Aretas with that of Agrippa (I) and Antiochus (IV) of Commagene, though their circumstances were clearly different, and totally ignores the impact of the unsanctioned war against Herod Antipas. There was no impact of Arteas war against Herod Antip...
by spin
Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:19 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Ethnarch of King Aretas? the legendary Damascus basket case
Replies: 250
Views: 252347

Re: evidence of an earthly human Jesus in the Pauline epistl

But there is something strange about the usage of the verb φρουρεω. The following citations are YLT of the Hebrew and in each LXX instance the Greek translation has a nominal form of our verb, which suggests that in such contexts in the Judeo-christian Greek tradition word indicates a body of soldi...
by spin
Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:57 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Ethnarch of King Aretas? the legendary Damascus basket case
Replies: 250
Views: 252347

Re: evidence of an earthly human Jesus in the Pauline epistl

In Flacc. 74, that a council of elders was appointed by Augustus to manage Jewish affairs after the death of the genarch. Who is that Genarch? Looks to be Herod the Great. I do not see a conflict here. A Jewich ethnarch can still preside over that council. But Philo chose to talk about the council ...
by spin
Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:39 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Ethnarch of King Aretas? the legendary Damascus basket case
Replies: 250
Views: 252347

Re: evidence of an earthly human Jesus in the Pauline epistl

Another point of contact between the Pauline letters and the pre-70 AD period occurs in 2 Cor 12:31-33, which has the passage about Paul being let down in a basket through a window in the wall to escape the "ethnarch under King Aretas," the last known Nabatean king by this name having die...
by spin
Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:23 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Ethnarch of King Aretas? the legendary Damascus basket case
Replies: 250
Views: 252347

Re: evidence of an earthly human Jesus in the Pauline epistl

I guess we can forget this basket case.
by spin
Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:36 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Ethnarch of King Aretas? the legendary Damascus basket case
Replies: 250
Views: 252347

Re: evidence of an earthly human Jesus in the Pauline epistl

ἐν Δαμασκῷ ὁ ἐθνάρχης Ἁρέτα τοῦ βασιλέως ἐφρούρει τὴν πόλιν Δαμασκηνῶν πιάσαι με, (2Co 11:32 BGT) You're correct that epi (the Greek for the Latin "sub" in the creed) doesn't appear here. But there is something strange about the usage of the verb φρουρεω. The following citations are YLT o...
by spin
Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:01 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Ethnarch of King Aretas? the legendary Damascus basket case
Replies: 250
Views: 252347

Re: evidence of an earthly human Jesus in the Pauline epistl

ruled by Nabatean kings Peter, on my blog post on the matter, I never said Damascus was ruled by Aretas at that time. http://historical-jesus.sosblogs.com/Historical-Jesus-Blo-b1/61-About-the-mention-of-the-ethnarch-of-Aretas-the-king-in-2-Corinthians-1132-33-b1-p65.htm The assumptions expressed in...
by spin
Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:33 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Ethnarch of King Aretas? the legendary Damascus basket case
Replies: 250
Views: 252347

Re: evidence of an earthly human Jesus in the Pauline epistl

Another point of contact between the Pauline letters and the pre-70 AD period occurs in 2 Cor 12:31-33, which has the passage about Paul being let down in a basket through a window in the wall to escape the "ethnarch under King Aretas," the last known Nabatean king by this name having die...
by spin
Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:36 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Ethnarch of King Aretas? the legendary Damascus basket case
Replies: 250
Views: 252347

Re: evidence of an earthly human Jesus in the Pauline epistl

Another point of contact between the Pauline letters and the pre-70 AD period occurs in 2 Cor 12:31-33, which has the passage about Paul being let down in a basket through a window in the wall to escape the "ethnarch under King Aretas," the last known Nabatean king by this name having die...