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by andrewcriddle
Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:20 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
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Re: Why the Hellenistic era for ALL "Old Testament" books should be taken seriously

One General issue is that the works in the Old Testament that would often be regarded as early Hellenistic like Chronicles are revising an earlier pre-Hellenistic text (Samuel-Kings) in the light of later ideology. (Yes this does treat Samuel-Kings as pre-Hellenistic but it does IMO seem considerabl...
by andrewcriddle
Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:11 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
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Re: Why the Hellenistic era .... Part 2

... what evidence is there for the conquest of Canaan? One city's fall is hardly evidence of a conquest of Canaan as per the Bible. I think it's a piece of solid evidence because the archaeology of Jericho matches the unique description of the city's fall in the Book of Joshua. Titus Kennedy also s...
by andrewcriddle
Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:06 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: ...
Replies: 110
Views: 4558

Re: Why the Hellenistic era for ALL "Old Testament" books should be taken seriously

Other parts of the Hebrew Bible which are IMO probably from the exilic or Persian period seem to know the Pentateuch or some form of proto-Pentateuch Without knowing what works you are referring to I am unable to think this one through. Kings, Deutero-Isaiah, Haggai, Nehemiah would be examples. I'm...
by andrewcriddle
Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:47 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: GThomas as reaction to the proto-catholic reception of GMark and GMatthew
Replies: 31
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Re: GThomas as reaction to the proto-catholic reception of GMark and GMatthew

Compared to the synoptic gospels, it seems unusual that Matthew is mentioned alongside Simon Peter in GThomas 13, who otherwise only plays a narrative role in the gospels as a tax collector. ... However, this juxtaposition of Simon Peter and Matthew becomes understandable against the background of ...
by andrewcriddle
Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: History of the challenge to apostolic authority (esp Peter)
Replies: 9
Views: 378

Re: History of the challenge to apostolic authority (esp Peter)

There is an interesting discussion by a 17th century Protestant in William Cave's Lives of the Apostles He holds that Peter was martyred in Rome but was not the First Pope.

Andrew Criddle
by andrewcriddle
Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:02 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is it that We "Know" that the New Testament is Mt, Mk, Lk, Jn, letters of Paul etc. or We've Been Told it is so?
Replies: 10
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Re: Is it that We "Know" that the New Testament is Mt, Mk, Lk, Jn, letters of Paul etc. or We've Been Told it is so?

The canon is by definition what the Christian community canonized. Whether they got it 'right' whatever 'right' means in this context is another matter.

Andrew Criddle
by andrewcriddle
Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: New Evidence for Celsus's True Word Being Written 177 - 180 CE
Replies: 18
Views: 824

Re: New Evidence for Celsus's True Word Being Written 177 - 180 CE

The original citation is from the "Jew of Celsus" in Book 2 Chapter 4: Εἶτα λέγει ὁ παρ' αὐτῷ Ἰουδαῖος πρὸς τοὺς ἀπὸ τοῦ λαοῦ πιστεύσαντας ὅτι χθὲς καὶ πρώην καὶ ὁπηνίκα τοῦτον ἐκολάζομεν βουκολοῦντα ὑμᾶς, ἀπέστητε τοῦ πατρίου νόμου, οὐδὲν ἀκριβὲς εἰδὼς ἐν οἷς ἔλεγεν, ὡς ἐδείξαμεν. Μετὰ δ...
by andrewcriddle
Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:46 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: ...
Replies: 110
Views: 4558

Re: Why the Hellenistic era for ALL "Old Testament" books should be taken seriously

Hi Andrew. As you note, the this thread is not about Gmirkin's thesis nor about any of the biblical authors' knowledge of Plato. It is exclusively about the more basic question: the view that the biblical literature was the product of the Hellenistic era. May I respond to some minor points and then...
by andrewcriddle
Mon Feb 26, 2024 9:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Problem of Paul and Marcionism
Replies: 102
Views: 58565

Re: Was the Paul-in-Acts a pagan?

Constantine moved the Serpent_Column to Constantinople not the Pythia herself. What makes you say "not the Pythias"? I assumed that the Delphi Pythias came with it as they were a real money-maker. The Wickedpaedia page is mute on that detail. The Pythia was apparently still active at Delp...
by andrewcriddle
Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:46 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: A quote from Greek Philosophy in the Old Testament
Replies: 4
Views: 318

Re: A quote from Greek Philosophy in the Old Testament

In context Moritz Friedlander is advocating a Hellenistic date for the 'Writings' Ketuvim or Hagiography. For Ecclesiastes I am sure he is right and he may be right for other Ketuvim.

Andrew Criddle