Yes, I've been reading a lot of Origen lately, and that is one approach he sometimes uses.andrewcriddle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:50 am I think that Origen believed that we can discover the hidden meaning of a Gospel narrative or parable by comparing the different versions of the same pericope found in the 4 canonical Gospels.
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- Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:55 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Origen's interesting ideas
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- Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:52 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Antitheses and the origin of Luke
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Re: The Antitheses and the origin of Luke
It's one thing for Marcion to say 'this was the original, that was an interpolation' when he does not know. It's another thing if Marcion originated the gospel text and wanted it to be accepted. In that case, transparency is unexpected. IMHO Marcion explicitly presented his Gospel text as a critica...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:42 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"
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Re: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"
I know that. I think everybody knows that.StephenGoranson wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:40 am No, I mentioned Ben C. Smith as one indication why most scholars would not come or stay here.
Ben C. Smith, however, whom you seem to respect, had no relevant academic credentials (as you know).
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:40 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"
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Re: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"
spin's still around a little. Just doesn't waste time with rehashing the same things over and over.
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:19 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
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Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
The comment "And we can only answer this question by appealing to polemical concerns" is not well argued.
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:11 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
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Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Hebrews is working out a concept of a perfect sacrifice, in order to provide an explanation of how Jesus replaced once and for all the use of sacrifices.
None of the claims in this thread were well argued.
None of the claims in this thread were well argued.
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:48 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Origen's interesting ideas
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Origen was just talking about some who would object to explaining the secret and mystical things in the Gospel. in context: discussing The Parable of the Unforgiving Servant in Matthew 18 Immediately begins explaining a point here about the parable of the talents in Matthew // Luke, saying: "th...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:29 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Marcion's church
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Re: Marcion's church
But in this respect, how different was it really from its predecessors?
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:22 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Origen's interesting ideas
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According to Heine's translation: "But someone will object that we act impiously when, because of the secret and mystical nature of some texts, we wish these to be indicative of the above writings and attempt to clarify them, even if it appears in theory that we know their intention precisely.&...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:50 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Marcion's church
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Re: Marcion's church
The metaphor of Marcion's church as something like a successful franchise model is a little interesting.